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Defacto
I'm planning out my first PH cycle... need views to which would be ideal to go for. I'm gonna start with 1-AD, 4-AD (Androdiol Select 300) and PCT 6-OXO.

Should I start my first cycle like this:

6 Weeks with PCT at the end
Week 1-3 - 300mg/1AD 600mg/4AD
Week 4-6 - 600mg/1AD 1200mg/4AD

Post Cycle
Week 1 - 600mg 6-OXO
Week 2 - 400mg
Week 3 - 400mg
Week 4 - 300mg

OR

2 wk (on) 300mg 1-AD / 900mg 4-AD
2 wk (off) 400mg 6-OXO
2 wk (on) 300mg 1-AD / 900mg 4-AD
2 wk (off) 400mg 6-OXO
2 wk (on) 300mg 1-AD / 900mg 4-AD
2 wk (off) 400mg 6-OXO
2 wk (off)

Thanks and appreciate any valuable inputs. smile.gif
Tkarrde
I'd go 2on/2off, personally.

I'd also recommend that with each cycle, you increase your 1AD dose so that cycle 1 it's 300mgs, in cycle 2 it's 400mgs, and in cycle 3 it's 600mgs. You can keep 4AD dose the same.
Defacto
QUOTE(Tkarrde @ May 19 2004, 10:05 AM)
I'd go 2on/2off, personally.

I'd also recommend that with each cycle, you increase your 1AD dose so that cycle 1 it's 300mgs, in cycle 2 it's 400mgs, and in cycle 3 it's 600mgs. You can keep 4AD dose the same.

Roger that TK... thanks! smile.gif

How far apart should the 1-AD/4-AD doses be? I've read that others usually take during breakfast, lunch and dinner. That should make up around 5hours apart. But wouldn't that mean that test levels will dive towards the evening till the next dose on the following day?
Tkarrde
I'd strive for 7-8hours apart (example 8am, 4pm, 12am).
Defacto
Hmmmm.. it does makes more sense now if done 7-8 hours apart. But any concerns with flactuations of test level, I mean the 1-AD wouldn't last very long in the body is that correct? wink.gif
jb1309
You be better of using a topical like DermaBolics S1+. You get androgen levels that remain continuously elevated throughout the day rather than the up and down with orals.
The Shade
QUOTE(Defacto @ May 21 2004, 05:39 PM)
Hmmmm.. it does makes more sense now if done 7-8 hours apart. But any concerns with flactuations of test level, I mean the 1-AD wouldn't last very long in the body is that correct?  wink.gif

It doesn't last at full potential very long but testosterone is still elevated. I believe the life of 1-ad is about 3 hours. You don't need S1+, many people including me have had great results with 1-ad, packing on a good amount of lean muscle.
shadymademe
[quote=The Shade,May 25 2004, 01:06 PM] [/QUOTE]
It doesn't last at full potential very long but testosterone is still elevated. I believe the life of 1-ad is about 3 hours. You don't need S1+, many people including me have had great results with 1-ad, packing on a good amount of lean muscle. [/quote]
1-AD does not raise test levels. Shade where do you come up with some of the stuff you say? And S1+ would be much more cost efficient and effective than the 1-ad.
The Shade
[quote=shadymademe,May 25 2004, 05:28 PM] [QUOTE=The Shade,May 25 2004, 01:06 PM] [/QUOTE]
It doesn't last at full potential very long but testosterone is still elevated. I believe the life of 1-ad is about 3 hours. You don't need S1+, many people including me have had great results with 1-ad, packing on a good amount of lean muscle. [/QUOTE]
1-AD does not raise test levels. Shade where do you come up with some of the stuff you say? And S1+ would be much more cost efficient and effective than the 1-ad. [/quote]
what I meant was 1-ad stays in your system for around 7-8 hours so you are anabolic for quite a while. S1+ is good but 1-ad is still a good hormone and if he has 1-ad he doesn't need s1+.
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