If I drink around 10 glasses of milk a day, does this cover my water intake? Or would I still have to drink more?

Water for life. Humans arn't even meant to drink milk, no other species drinks milk after infancy.

Well we are smarter than most other species, and milk is one of my greatest sources for calories (about 1000 or more a day).

water. u need water to live, u need water no matter what. even on the cellular level, water helps u lose weight and gain muscle. water is the best.

Yes and milk contains about 90% water, or so I believe.

ya but milk is milk and water is water. their completly different. u have to drink water. why hate water when water is every bodybuilders friend. i personnally drink 2 gallons a day and have never felt better since ive started drinking this much. milk is great if your trying to gain weight and all, but u cant replace water. its like trying to get stronger without weights but using "something" like it. youll get results but not as good as if you were using the real thing.

Why are you so high on not drinking plain water? What's so bad about it? Furthermore, do you not drink plain water at all during the day?

I am not *above* drinking water. I am simply lazy. I would rather drink some calories than no calories at all. Furthermore, I drink about 40-60 oz water around my workout, or whenever I am near a faucet (i.e after i defecate, I guzzle water from the tap).

Ahhh, I see. I was just trying to get an understanding on what your stance was, whether you hated water for some weird reason or just didn't feel like drinking it. I was also a little concerned that you possibly didn't drink any water during workout, but that obviously isn't the case.

I guess it's more a matter of personal preference than anything else. I've never read anything that would suggest drinking milk to double as daily water consumption would be bad for you or you wouldn't get the same benefits as a result. Personally I'd stick with downing plain old water.

I would suggest that you could drink milk AND plain water, but...yeah...laziness.

I dont see how it takes anymore effort to drink a glass of water then it takes to drink milk. By your logic that milk is so much water already, so is soda and all those other sugary drinks out there. Basically every drink out there that's a liquid contains water. It's what else is in there that makes up the difference. Nothing replaces just plain water.

The effort is in the calorie difference for me... If I am drinking something it might as well have some caloric value.

I'm not looking for opinions. Let's say I drink a gallon of milk a day, would I still have to drink another gallon of water to fulfill my liquid intake?

If you drink milk, your body has to process it, which will result in byproducts. I have read (somewhere) that the amount of water that is needed to eliminate those byproducts are less than the amount contained in the glass of milk.

So, the answer is, no, you don't need to drink as much water. I forget by how much, but it is significant amount.

'milk is for babies.' -- arnold

www.milksucks.com

http://www.grandtimes.com/Water_Cure.html

drink milk if you want. but not at the expense of water. you'll just have to walk around all day with a distended belly full of liquid. isn't that exactly what ronnie coleman does?

during a talk with a nutritionist .. he told me milk cannot make up for water because of the osmolity .. im not 100% what he meant but i got this idea .. the water per amount of things in the drink(macronutrients and micro) .. in milk is not the same as the osmolity in water .. the water from milk is used to transport those nutrients already in the drink .. but you need water alone to transport nutrients on their own .. understand? .. maybe someone could help me explain this

but dont get me wrong .. i believe milk is great ..

This study examined the effects of increasing milk on bone and body composition responses to resistance training in adolescents. Twenty-eight boys (13 to 17 years of age) were randomly assigned to consume, in addition to their habitual diet, 3 servings/day of 1% fluid milk (n=14) or juice not fortified with calcium (n=14) while engaged in a 12-week resistance-training program. For all subjects combined, there were significant (P<or=.05) changes in height (+0.5%), sigmaseven skin folds (-7.7%), body mass (+2.6%), lean body mass (+5.1%), fat mass (-9.3%), whole-body bone mineral content (+3.6%), bone mineral density (+1.8%), and maximal strength in the squat (+43%) and bench press (+23%). Compared with juice, the milk group had a significantly greater increase in bone mineral density (0.014 vs 0.028 g/cm(2)). Increasing intake of milk in physically active adolescent boys may enhance bone health.

this is appealing to me cuz i am in adolescent age group(16) and still hoping to grow a bit more .. idono if it applies to you in your case muffin but just something you should know

According to the July M&F:

"Men need an average of 16 cups of water a day and women need 11 cups....All fluid you consume is included in that 16 cups, including soda, tea, coffee MILK, and even moisture in foods."

Take that for what it's worth. It is highly individual based on climate, activity level and a bunch of other variables.

*www.milksucks.com* is a little to biased for my tastes.

But any more studies on negative effects of milk would be appreciated.

those are great results but when uve stopped growing and your out of that year range then milk becomes calories that will not help you. i see milk helpful in a few ways. first milk will help kids that are still growing. milk can be put in a protein shake to make it more like a meal and add its casein effects. milk can help alot during bulking. some people do fine using dairy products while cutting some dont. but my point is that its great stuff but u cant replace water with milk. u can add milk to your diet as long as u drink enough water. if you bodybuilding or something like that u should be drinking 1-2gallons of water. it helps clean ur system. protein synthesis goes down when there is a lack of water. muscles are mainly water. creatine works mainly by drawing in water to the muscle. why is creatine so popular if thats what it mainly does? because adequate amounts of muscle create a great enviroment for training. have u ever seen a bb not drink water? oh minitank, ya that goes for me. 16 here too.

This is more along the lines of what i was thinking

IIRC, the issue of the concentration of a solution (wrt to hydration) really only matters during training. So long as you're using water or something sufficiently diluted (I think it was ~7% solution maybe?) during your workout, I wouldn't worry too much about the milk. Like you said, you do drink some water in addition to it, and if you notice any dehydration, you could always, you know, drink more ( )

funny shit though. come on... "milksucks.com"??? it's sad, what some people do with their time.

all this "drink 8 glass of water per day" stuff has been pulled out from someones arse 30 years ago and isnt based on any science at all.

a better rule for hydration would be to have to go for 4-5 big clear urinations a day. this always takes into account temp, humidity and activity levels.

and i personally piss all day from drinking about 1 gallon per day, i couldnt imagine drinking 2-3 gallons per day like some here

i drink 2 gallons a day and i still dont piss clear. whats wrong with me!

i would suspect that you may soon be afflicted with a terrible kidney exploding disease, or that your piss is yellow from your multi vit being pissed out

i would suspect that you may soon be afflicted with a terrible kidney exploding disease, or that your piss is yellow from your multi vit being pissed out

first time i took a piss after taking a multi .. i tripped out ... it was so yellow i was like damn .. it made me feel healthy ... but ya .. probably from the vitamin

lmao. i almost pissed myself reading that. well when i take my multi its more like NEON. and its still yellow on days i forget my multi or when i dont have any left. (im forgetful)

Milk has protein, water does not.
You know the saying "milk, does a body good."
Try raising a person on water as opposed to milk, I'm sure there are studies showing the difference in muscle size.

2 gallons of water a day?
That should be about 16 glasses of pure water, are you sure you drink that much?
You must be going to bathroom every hour feel and bloated in your stomach.
How do you get 16 glasses in daily?
Do you care a jog of Deer Park with you?

I used to, operative word used to, go for 10 glasses of water day.
I didn't see any change in muscle or apperance between then, before, and now when I get maybe 5 pure cups of water daily.
I stopped drinking so much because I saw no difference at all excpet for feeling heavier in my stomach, having to go to the bathroom all the time.
Further, my family and other people kept hasseling me about how I was drinking too much water, how abnormal it was to be gulping down so much water..I mean everybody kept pointing this out to me.

im not opposing milk, its great stuff but u cant replace water with milk, u should drink the right amount of water and then add milk to ur diet. ya i drink 2 gallons a day, i piss like a mother, people at school know me as "the waterboy" cuz u could never find witout a gallon jug in my hand and my locker full of those 1.5L bottles. i love water, its all i drink, havent had anything either then water for like 6 months now. guess im a water addict

Maybe that's because water isn't going to directly cause hypertrophy. Water is something that's used more as a basic foundation for good nutrition and overall health as opposed to a supplement to make you grow. The human body needs/uses water for proper digestion and nutriet absorbing, acts as a lubricant for joints, proper circulation, etc., etc.

Water plays an important role in the grand scheme of things, but you can't expect it to make you grow. It doesn't.

In high school I used to carry around a bottle of water. Great excuse to go fill it up during class and to go piss every half hour.

Two breaks a class is great in my book : )

i always had my gallon jug but the teachers would never let me go "there is no need for that much water so ur gonna have to wait" so i always had to piss between periods and carry my water for the day. it sucked but w/e this is all about sacrifices. i water.

While I support the frequent consumption of plain water, the notion that milk, a majority of which is water, does not contribute positively towards one's 'water balance' is nonsensical.

That being said, all the money spent on milk would probably be better spent on some whey protein. A little dextrose could replace the missing CHO if desired, and the end product would probably be easier on the digestive system. Although it would cost more up front, you would certainly save in the long run with milk being over $3 a gallon in some places...

I buy my milk for $2.50 at market basket. I believe that's the price for your typical protein bar.

Sure, but both milk and protein bars would be less than optimal choices. A big bucket of whey plus added dextrose would give you all the benefits and cost much less per calorie and protein gram.

The dextrose is alot higher on the GI scale than the carbs from milk. Plus you get the slow release casein protein.

I guess you could also buy a casein blend protein... but still, I love just reaching into the fridge and grabbing my gallon of milk and not mixing this and that together.

Sorry but honestly this post is a bit ridiculous. You say that you drink this milk because you don't want the hassle of mixing something up. How do you plan on having nutritious meals if you don't want to blend up even a drink?

You might need to rethink your diet if you need all of that milk just to add extra calories. It can't be good all that sugar your adding either. Just a thought.