enkai
Jun 19 2004, 10:19 AM
Okay fellas I been deadlifting weekly and squatting for about a year now. So far it's not bad, but I feel that deadlifting every week along with all the other training is really taxing on the body and will shorten the recovery rate. Does anyone else here deadlift every week and whats everyones opinion on this?
natron
Jun 19 2004, 10:32 AM
I go through peroids where I deadlift every week for a few weeks on end. But I also go through peroids where I dealift 1-2 times per month. It really depends on how my lower back is feeling. If I'm not feeling 100%, I don't deadlift. On the weeks I dealift I usually have to go lighter on squats and vise versa.
Last week I broke a personal record and machine squated 400lbs for reps, there was no fuckin' way I could have done deads last week. That's fo' sho'.
If you feel good though, and it's working for you, keep it up. If not, switch things up a little.
Rick
Paul2200
Jun 19 2004, 11:59 AM
Deadlift, deadlift, deadlift!!!
I LOVE deadlifting, especially when I reach the heavier weights, all the stares from the old people and other clueless gym rats "WTF is he doin??" Ahhh the joy of commercial gyms...
As for me, there rarely ever goes a week where I don't deadlift. Actually, it probably averages out to 4 times every 3 weeks or so. The trick to not burning out is to not go extremely heavy every single time. Switch it up!
Mist-Fit
Jun 19 2004, 12:49 PM
I've been doing Deadlifts, Squats and SLDLs every week for the past few months now and haven't experienced any problems. With recovery, like natron said, it's all about how you feel and if it's working for you.
If I get to a point where I'm generally feeling really worn out or like crap, I ease off a bit and create more of a distance between the days that I do Deads and Squats or alternate them every other week. Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
suleiman
Jun 19 2004, 01:26 PM
Deadlift, Deadlift, Deadlift!
Well I haven't done a deadlift for sometime now (I'm on the road, Beruit actually) but I have done the deadlift up to 5 times a week. It is important to keep your volume in check. For example, when I was deadlifting 5 times a week I was only doing 2 sets of five each work out. Also changing the weight each workout. If you don't like the idea of 2 sets of 5, 5 times a week then 5 sets of 5 once or twicer a week will give yu the same volume (roughly). It is important to listen to your body and to back off with the weight every now and then. IN other words cycle the weight you lift eg. 150 5*5, 155, 160, 165, then back to 155kg.
For the record my last PR for the deadlift was 210kg.
Hope that helps.
jdhar
Jun 19 2004, 01:37 PM
QUOTE(Mist-Fit @ Jun 19 2004, 01:49 PM)
I've been doing Deadlifts, Squats and SLDLs every week for the past few months now and haven't experienced any problems. With recovery, like natron said, it's all about how you feel and if it's working for you.
If I get to a point where I'm generally feeling really worn out or like crap, I ease off a bit and create more of a distance between the days that I do Deads and Squats or alternate them every other week. Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
My thoughts exactly. On UD 2.0, considering the whole power workout is done full-body style, it can definitely be quite taxing to do SLDL's, Squats and DL's in the same workout. Usually, I do 2 of them - DL's and one other. Considering DL's hit everything if done correctly, I really think you can ease off on other lifts if you need to. Or VV, drop DL's and compensate with others for that week.
enkai
Jun 20 2004, 12:17 PM
I'm curious as to know because I deadlift every week and I (HEART) my deads, and squats, but when I throw in stiff leg deadlifts after squats to hit the hammies, my loewr back is just taxed out, so I'm wondering if anyone had sucess with doing SLDL over conventional for overall development?
scottyo
Jun 20 2004, 12:35 PM
I think it depends on how advanced you are on DL's. If the weight is getting up their, then the CNS and lower back strain can be pretty intense doing SLDL and regular in the same session. Personally, I try to avoid doing all three if doing a full body workout, especially if Im going to be hitting it again in the next couple of days.
roadrunner
Jun 20 2004, 12:49 PM
I've been doing squats and deads back to back in the same workout and recovering fine. Given, I only did this for ~3 weeks nearing the peak (end) of a strength cycle. Lifts were consistently going up. But by this point, my lower back was giving out making any further progress a pipe dream even though the target muscles could have taken the abuse.
Depending on your development, giving up one exercise in favor of the other might even be a consideration. For example, my legs respond very well to heavy squats/deads. I go through periods of only deads (no squats

) to bank some recovery for the upper body. Works like a charm.
If you're CNS is recovering from heavy deads every week then have at it.... just watch for signs of burnout as if your life depended on it
enkai
Jun 20 2004, 01:58 PM
I deadlift 435, and max about at roughly 450-475, squat 415 for six to ten reps, I'm going to take lou simmons advice on this one guys, if the progress stops working, switch it up...Dimel Deadlifts here i come

. This enabled the late matt dimel to take his squt from 800s to over a grand.
enkai
Jun 21 2004, 10:03 AM
I just got back from my 9 am back workout on mondays, I did some Dimel Deads, got 315 for six reps, but they're supposto be done in about 15 reps or so, fuck it...I posed in the mirror and checked out my back when it's pumped...HOLY SHIT, my lower back is so fucking developed from doing deads every week, its insane...It just plainly sticks out like bam.

So food for thought...Train heavy and constant with one exercise that kills the area n than switch up when it doesn't work ne more.
George
Jul 1 2004, 11:28 AM
you could throw in periods where you deadlift every other day, just as long as at some point you allow your body to recover. thats called dual factor training, it means you dont have to recover fully after EVERY workout, you just need to recover fully every once in a while ... im not an expert in this field though, so dont ask me to elaborate. read up on it if u want.
im kinda experimenting with this though. i may do an exercise every other day until i notice that my strength is beginning to go to shit, then i back off for a period of time that from experience will let me recover, during that time i may do some active recovery workouts ... then when i come back i can expect a jump in strength.
there have to be more elaborate schemes than that though, im just too lazy to read.
Big EG
Jul 5 2004, 09:40 AM
The deadlift, for more than one reason, is very different from other exercises, even the squat. I've made great progress while deadlifting and I've also made great progress (for me of course) without any deadlifts. I cannot say the same about any other lift. If you look at russian type programs (Sheiko) at
http://www.worldpowerlifting.com you'll see that they deadlift often but keep the percentages lower than bench presses and squats. The volume is also somewhat lower than the other two. Successful Finnish deadlift programs also have more than one weekly deadlift session. This is true for every lift, but it becomes very apparent, very quickly, that you must keep the frequency of deadlifting inversely proportional to the intensity(%) of your lifts. I deadlift everyday, for singles, but I never go over 80% of my contest max....and yes my deadlift is currently improving more than my bench and deadlift (for other reasons as well).
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