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Paul2200
This morning I decided to start up the HIIT again and I had my first proatmeal shakes! Pre-HIIT I grinded up with a coffee grinder and the post I did not (yeah.... ph34r.gif )

Anyway, a few questions for ya'lls:
1) Is it okay to eat oats uncooked?

2) Does grinding oats affect GI at all?

3) For both shakes, I had 30g carbs and 30g protein. How does that sound? (5'8",19,170,15%)

(Sorry if answered before, but I'm currently diggin my way through the _7 PAGES_ of Ode to Oatmeal, yikes!)
roadrunner
1. yes, that' how I do it. sstays with you much longer than if cooking.

2. yes, it increases it... however i'm unsure of the significance or lack thereof

3. So ~500 calories surrounding the HIIT session? What are your goals? Whether or not this is ok will depend on the overall picture of your diet/training. Doesn't sounds horribly bad though

Ode to oatmeal is a great thread ain't it! smile.gif
geoffgarcia
I seem to remember having read that the more refined the oat the more insulin response it has.
The most unrefined oat is obviously whole oat
followed by SteelCut which is simply a cracked oat to allow moisture inside and allow it to soften, these are hard as rocks unless put in warm water for about 5-10 minutes minutes
Rolled oats are the most common and are a regular oat thats been crushed by a steam roller
Instant oats are ground and then processed into flakes (to the best of my knowledge)

personally I consume 2 servings of steel cut mixed with 1 serving of rolled per day.

Sorry if this doesn't really help:(
Paul2200
QUOTE(roadrunner @ Jun 25 2004, 01:17 PM)
1. yes, that' how I do it.  sstays with you much longer than if cooking.

2. yes, it increases it... however i'm unsure of the significance or lack thereof

3. So ~500 calories surrounding  the HIIT session?  What are your goals?  Whether or not this is ok will depend on the overall picture of your diet/training.   Doesn't sounds horribly bad though

Ode to oatmeal is a great thread ain't it! smile.gif

Oops yeah I'm cutting (hopefully...)

And I was inspired to use the proatmeal shakes by the Ode to Oatmeal thread since I figure that the dextrose in my PWO shakes may be one of the (MANY) factors why I have had such limited success in my fat loss goals.

So along w/ the HIIT, I'm going to be trying low-GI PWO shakes, which is why I was wondering how much, if at all, grinding affects the GI of oatmeal?

If not, hell anyway, taking a coffee grinder to oatmeal is DAMN fun!! laugh.gif
Paul2200
geoffgarcia, yeah, what? Not really sure what you're gettin at hehe

I have the Quaker Oats 100% Whole Grain 100% Natural oats, the one that comes in the red/blue canister with the old dude on it ph34r.gif

Ingreds: 100% Natural Whole Grain Quaker Quality Rolled Oats

(damn these guys are wordy...)
roadrunner
QUOTE(Paul2200 @ Jun 25 2004, 01:50 PM)
geoffgarcia, yeah, what? Not really sure what you're gettin at hehe

he's just sharing random miscellany about oat processing methods, didn't really have anything to do with your post...

you got the right oats bro cool.gif

what is the rest of your diet like? how low do you plan on taking your bf? Where is 15% with respect to your set-point?
Paul2200
Check out my thread in the diet forum

Well, it's kinda f-ed up right now -- I think I did too much of a calorie restriction + cardio so I just blew up and now I can't stop thinkin about food!

BF goal?? As low as I can possibly go!! (been an obese kid all my life until I found bodybuilding!)

Not sure about the set-point for sure. Maybe I am at my setpoint already and this past week is NOT the result of severe calorie restriction... (that would suck if it was!!)
geoffgarcia
my point was if ur truly concerned about GI then go with the whole oat

if ur going with instant oats u might as well just eat white bread...
roadrunner
QUOTE(geoffgarcia @ Jun 25 2004, 05:33 PM)
if ur going with instant oats u might as well just eat white bread...

there is much more to a carbohydrate source than simply its GI
Paul2200
QUOTE(roadrunner @ Jun 27 2004, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE(geoffgarcia @ Jun 25 2004, 05:33 PM)
if ur going with instant oats u might as well just eat white bread...

there is much more to a carbohydrate source than simply its GI

Yeah definitely! For example, I'm not about to pull out a few slices of bread at the gym for PWO haha

Speaking of GI, so any more ideas on how much/if any GI will be affected by grindin' up teh oatmeal?
MYNAMEIZGREG
QUOTE(Paul2200 @ Jun 28 2004, 02:17 AM)
QUOTE(roadrunner @ Jun 27 2004, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE(geoffgarcia @ Jun 25 2004, 05:33 PM)
if ur going with instant oats u might as well just eat white bread...

there is much more to a carbohydrate source than simply its GI

Yeah definitely! For example, I'm not about to pull out a few slices of bread at the gym for PWO haha

Speaking of GI, so any more ideas on how much/if any GI will be affected by grindin' up teh oatmeal?

It would make sense that grinding the oats would increase the GI rating; the oats are now in a more readily digestible form that before, and thus need less time to be turned into glucose, hence a higher GI rating.
phyreflame
QUOTE
Speaking of GI, so any more ideas on how much/if any GI will be affected by grindin' up teh oatmeal?


As long as you don't grind it up into fine powder or something, I don't see it affecting it to a degree you have to worry about. After all, everything we eat is ground up a certain amount by chewing... At least, I personally can't swallow oatmeal withing chewing it.
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