Just starting my Pir loading, 2 more days and i will add in anir. Then i can play with the levels i am looking at 4 grams 2x daily with Pir ( i am using 12% BSL fruit Punch on the Pir and it is helping sig, but it is still sour) I will then use 1g 2x per day of pir and 750 2x of anir. I basically throw 1 tbsp of pir and one 1/4 of alcar flavored powder into water or crystal light. 2x daily right now. I can def say i love Piracetam.My mental lag is gone, and as long as i take it with some Alcar ( ~1g) and a multi it seems to kick in within 30 mins. When i load i notice i get a lil edgy at first but once it subsides i feel great. Has about an 8 hour half like on me from what i can feel peaking at about 4-6 hours. That should get this log started

age- 23
weight - 235
height 6'6" - if ya need to know stats


Peace
Mike U


ps - sexual side effects are a positive - this stuff makes you a freak

now i am loaded on pir. it is so nice. I feel like i am in a direct connect with everything. From driving to music. The sublte details are now apparent but ufortunately so are the faults in my life and ppl areound me hehe. Sounds stupid but reality seemed to kick in when i started on this stuff last time and same experience again. Better sleep and i also enjoy sex more so., also to respond to the phen thread pir kicks phenibut's ass for sex hehe.

Personally, I cannot decide whether taking these nootropics is helping me or not. With M1T, at least, I can guage my strength levels against real weights. So, in a few days, I can figure out whether if I am bs.ing myself that I am getting stronger, etc. With nootropics, there is no way for me to tell if it is making any diff.

With sleep reduction stack, you can test its effectiveness by (1) sleeping less and (2) trying to figure out if your physical performance in lifting dminishes. If you get stronger, you know that sleep reduction formula was effective.

For mental "improvement," I don't think there is any reliable test one can take. See, the problem is that brain "learns" so that we cannot take the same test to figure out if we are getting smarter.

Well i can sat adding aniracetam to the mix has fucked me up nicely. I dont quite have a grasp on anything and just feel kinda spaced out. I think Pir. Chocamine and Alcar seem to do the trick for me. I like aniracetam by itself and pre workout but its def hits me likea brick. I think overall mood, general ability to function under pressure, math, and sociability work as test measures. I can talk more and seem to make stronger arguments, i can run numbers easier, and sex is more enjoyable haha. So in that sense ill be buiying my Kilo of pir soon. I got 100g's of anir laying around for when i feel i need a break and or maybe when i go on tour and cant keep up with a strict piracetam reg. I am gonna not take the anir tommorow and then try it again with a lower dosage of pir and see wahts happens. I am doing 2g's alcar, 1g choc., 1500mg pir and 750 anir 2x a day. Without the anir. i feel great. Motivated and effecient, but today i was bent.

I would suspect that, combined with the Pir, your dose of Anir is WAY too high. I got the same reaction as you, and ended up dropping the Anir down to about 75mg.

I take a 00 capsule filled with Pir on a cap-m-quik. When the capsules are full, I tamp them down hard and fill in the rest with Aniracetam. It ends up being something like 750mg pir/50-75mg Anir. I take this 4-5 times a day and I have noticed at the very least an additive effect, if not quite discernably synergistic.

thanks for the tip ...yeah that a tenth of the dose i am working with hehe. I also just figured out i was hitting about 10g''s of pir my loading days and my first 2 tries with anir were with 5 g's pir cause of a stupidly labeled measuring spoon. It said t8spn in very small print which i took for tsp hehe...yeah i know it looks way bigger but its a weird spoon and the only one i had hehe.. Ill try again tommorow as today i feel a lil sick and dont wanna feel unstable too.


thanks
mike U

Get a scale!!!!!!!

If you are taking that much Pir then you will certainly get foggy by adding a shit load of aniracetam. If you are going to combine the two, I would drop the Pir to 1500mg/day and the start the anir at 500mg/day split into three doses. Keep your choline up. You should be dosing choline!! I would recommend Alpha GPC starting at 500mg per day.

yeah thanks to rizzer aka smi2le.biz i will be indulging....

After about 50-100 trials reaction time tends to level off on simple reaction time tests (don't have the reference handy), and other tests like digit span or backwards digit span are also stable after a few trials. It should be easy to see an improvement in these sorts of tests... of course knowing if that improvement carries over into something more meaningful is the catch.