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Colin
I rec'd my liquid clen from ibelabs.net within a week of ordering and shipping was only $3 and change.
Started on it @ 100 mcg's,todays my 3rd day and my body is about to explode...trembling extremities and so on.I'm also stacking it w/e/c/y and 50 mcg's T3,so they're definitely amplifying the overstimulation to my CNS but I was using thm before the clen too so I know I can dismiss those variables.
That said,their liquid reserach chemicals are most definitely not underdosed and I'd buy from them again.Their prices are pretty good on most things but for some reason ketotifen is jacked up.
powergrudge
QUOTE(Colin @ Aug 27 2004, 10:59 AM)
I'm also stacking it w/e/c/y and 50 mcg's T3,so they're definitely amplifying the overstimulation to my CNS but I was using thm before the clen too so I know I can dismiss those variables.

Um, that sounds like a a LOT of CNS stimulation. I'm no expert on clen, but from everything I've read, ECY needs to be saved for off weeks in between cycles. And unless you've got plenty of experience with clen, then starting at a dose of 100mcg ED (especially with ECY) is just asking for trouble.
shadymademe
Lyle recommends Clen with EC in order to hit beta-2 and beta-3 simultaneously. Also the decrease in NPY with EC is real nice. Bump for ibelabs, I love the place.
Colin
PG:
I've done 5 or 6 2 week cycles of clen before w/comparatively no problem,stacked w/E/C/Y as well.
I'm definitely in a state of overtraining right now and te stack of drugs I've been dosing regularly have compounded the problem.
powergrudge
QUOTE(shadymademe @ Aug 27 2004, 05:48 PM)
Lyle recommends Clen with EC in order to hit beta-2 and beta-3 simultaneously. Also the decrease in NPY with EC is real nice. Bump for ibelabs, I love the place.

I'm not necessarily saying that clen can't be stacked with any other stimulants. It just seems that unless one has an extremely high tolerance for stimulants and is a veteran with everything used, then some more time working up to peak doses may be in order. I do, however, recall Lyle speaking out against the ECY stack, as it puts too much stress on the heart. Add clen to the picture and you can expect some nasty sides.
lancelot
class act co. and quality RC's. The only place i could buy viagra and cilias powders. wide selection of RC powders at good prices.
Chupacabra
QUOTE(shadymademe @ Aug 27 2004, 09:48 PM)
Lyle recommends Clen with EC in order to hit beta-2 and beta-3 simultaneously. Also the decrease in NPY with EC is real nice. Bump for ibelabs, I love the place.

Are you sure Lyle recommended this? Generally Lyle isn't a big fan of polypharmacy.
shpongled
QUOTE(Chupacabra @ Aug 28 2004, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE(shadymademe @ Aug 27 2004, 09:48 PM)
Lyle recommends Clen with EC in order to hit beta-2 and beta-3 simultaneously. Also the decrease in NPY with EC is real nice. Bump for ibelabs, I love the place.

Are you sure Lyle recommended this? Generally Lyle isn't a big fan of polypharmacy.

I really doubt Lyle said that

especially since he doesn't even think beta3's are important
shadymademe
QUOTE(shpongled @ Aug 28 2004, 11:16 PM)
QUOTE(Chupacabra @ Aug 28 2004, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE(shadymademe @ Aug 27 2004, 09:48 PM)
Lyle recommends Clen with EC in order to hit beta-2 and beta-3 simultaneously. Also the decrease in NPY with EC is real nice. Bump for ibelabs, I love the place.

Are you sure Lyle recommended this? Generally Lyle isn't a big fan of polypharmacy.

I really doubt Lyle said that

especially since he doesn't even think beta3's are important


I stand corrected. It was nandi.
SJA
Pricing is a little high. Custom's pricing is much better, although ibe has a better selection of RC's
lancelot
QUOTE(SJA @ Sep 1 2004, 05:36 AM)
Custom's pricing is much better, although ibe has a better selection of RC's

custom's price is much better on nolva and clomid, but IBE has a huge selection of RC's that custom refuses to carry. IBE has good prices as well and great customer service.
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