Monday through Friday we (US Army) have to do organized PT consisting of push ups, sit ups, pull ups, and running(and other things of the sort).
PT starts at 6:30am, and is over at 7:30am, which then I'm able to eat my first real meal of the day at 8.
The problem here is, I have to wake up at 5am to get ready and drive 30 minutes to get to work, and I definitely can't eat a real meal or even a whey protein shake with water before the physical training we do.
I was waking up and drinking a 40 gram protein shake first thing at 5am (and struggled with that).
Now, I wake up and use Bodyoctane first thing, and after PT mix up a shake with water at 7:30am.
So, that's two and a half hours after rising without any protein or anything.
If I want to keep using the bodyoctane (which has helped my endurance for PT drastically), what else can I do? Would BCAAs or glutamine or something help to use with the bodyoctane first thing in the morning, and then just drink a shake after PT like I'm doing? I'm kind of lost here. Any suggestions welcomed.

Thanks.

I know what you are going through. When i use to get up at 5am and have to do a regimen like you have to do I would always puke when ruunning. I could not eat and run. I kept trying to find something that would agree with my stomach. I found that trail mix was great. I would wake up at 5am have handful or 2 or trail mix and that would help me get through PT until I could get some real food. The trail mix is dense in calories and has alot of fat content. Most of the fat is coming from the nuts so it is a good source. I know this is not a supplement but it worked for me and my weak stomach.

I think Neurostim would be great if you could suck that down and it does not upset your stomach when running.

I personally take chocamine and L-tyrosine as my wake up stack in the mornings. It lifts the morning fog and helps my endurance. I'm about to give Neurostim a try.

Thanks.

Anyone have any thoughts on that?

If you struggled but mad eit through PT by drinking a 40 G protien(assuming just whey and low/a few carbs?) shake I'd down a Myoplex original w/water at 5am(42 G fast and slow proteins w/24 G med-high GI carbs),the carbs should prevent cramping w/out being too much to make you feel full while the slow releasing protien will stave off LBM loss as effectively as possible.A 1/2 hour drive should be enough time for your stomach to avoid GI distress,pop something like an e/c stack to help w/focus and your ability to keep your shake in your stomach.

I don't see why trail mix would not upset your stomach,that is actually SOLID food and at least blended protien will support LBM much more than fat would.

Honestly, "ideally" (although I employ this in the general sense because I don't know if you're bulking, cutting, or just looking to improve your general level of fitness &/or muscle:fat ratio-- I also don't know your supplement budget either, unfortunately...) I would use something like:


Upon rising:

- 10g of a protein like MPI (milk protein isolate) or 5g Whey/5g of MPI (although measuring out such a minute amount of protein is kind of tedious)
- 1 serving of NO-Xplode (BSN) or Leptigen Basic/Mass or any solid, cell-volumizer that will also affect alertness & energy levels while signaling in numerous different fed-state pathways. I think particularly highly of the two above (hence the reason I mentioned them).
- H20
(- additionally, 5g of Glutamine & 5-10g of BCAAs won't hurt, but this is fairly costly and I don't consider it necessary if you're getting in all of the aforementioned stuff. There are also an almost infinite number of stimulant/nootropic-possibilities/combinations that could be utilized if you really find yourself dead out there or need to further improve your performance, but--in the same gist as the above--they're by no means crucial.)

Like, right before you get out of the car and start training (this would also be optional/additional):

- 10-20g of BCAAs