My question is what are the best supplements to use to gain muscle mass. I currently use creatine monohydrate. My favorite tasting drink is muscle milk but the best one that ive used is Up Your Mass.
Please submit what the best weight gaining drinks are and what the best supplements are.

food and steriods

Best supplements for individuals looking to gain mass:

1. Food, and by food I mean ample calories, at least 20% of your macronutrient consumption in dietary fat (preferably from natural peanut butter and olive oil with some saturated fat coming from eggs and lean beef), 1g of protein/lb of bodyweight, carbohydrates in/around workouts, and 6g of fish oil/day
2. Creatine (which you're already using--solid)
3. Leptigen Mass (name sort of speaks for itself, but it truly is an excellent product)

4. ANDROGENS
5. Sleep

Honestly, that is all I really recommend for trainees looking to PURELY gain mass/strength. With that said, other good supplements that can provide an "additional edge/angle" are:

1. BCAAs (15-25g/workout, 1/2 immediately before/during, 1/2 immediately after). Recovery will be phenomenal. Unfortunately, this is also quite costly, hence the reason I didn't recommend it initially--I don't find it cost-effective.
2. 7-OXO or 7-OH-DHEA. Helps mitigate ill effects of cortisol and decrease fat-gain on mass-phases, improving muscle:fat gain ratio.
3. Ephedrine & Caffeine. Repartitions more calories to muscle by rendering skeletal muscle partially insulin resistant, improving muscle:fat gain ratio. Also will give you more energy in the gym to work out. You have to eat around the appetite suppression though--that's the principal drawback from this angle.

Oh, and leave the drugs (i.e. insulin, HGH & the like) alone.

Lastly, best "mass drinks" IMHO:

During workouts: Vendetta by Xtreme Formulations
Any other time: Shit, this one is a toughie. Couple I'm fond of:

- Optimum Nutrition's Pro-Complex PM
- BioTest's Low-Carb Grow (Not a huge fan of the company, but this is definitely their best product)
- SAN's Infusion
- HSN's Driver (I like the profile quite a bit, although the taste is kind of lacking so I usually sweeten it with Splenda or mix it with some peanut butter)

(simultaneously). Yet again, "great minds think alike."

You said MASS:

D-Bol
Anadrol
Test
Protein (food)

Opened ended questions gets a quick response

monkey urine

take it to basics 101.

How is IR in muscle going to partition calories toward muscle?

If you dont have a complete diet no supplement is gonna give you muscle mass you desiere. It all starts with a good diet, I suggest you do some research on nutrition http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/007...3958850-6183317 pick up that book if you can, you can look at a few pages on the site provided.
Also I want to point out that gaining weight and gaining muscle are 2 different things. If you eat shit you will look like shit!
Once you get the diet in order here are some supplements worth looking into:
1) Protein
2) MultiVitamin
3) L-Glutamine
4) Creatine
5) EFA

If you short on cash I would suggest investing it in a good piece of steak as opposed to a tub of powder.
Also the first 2 supps are the most important if you have cash left go for the rest.

1. to a certain degree skeletal muscular insulin-resistance is amino-acid sparing on a basic physiological level

2. beta-adrenergic receptor stimulation will also similarly draw calories towards muscle tissue and away from adipose tissue.

Needless to say, I "respectfully disagree" about the utility of glutamine on a mass-phase.

I would like to ask why?
I think with the use of glutamine mass-phase would be enhanced. I would appreciate if you provide studies or objectives to support your statement.

Loki also before I made an account here I would read this board for a long time and I do have the utmost respect for your replies. I didnt mean to show disrespect, but your sarcastic remark provoked it. We are all here to learn and improve.

which of the two do you feel work better for this purpose? and im assuming you are applying either transdermally for superior absorption?

ditto!

I believe 7OH is the new oral by Designer supps.

7-OH should definitely be used orally, IMO (it is the flip side of my 7-oxo/11beta-HSD/REDOX theory)

Yeah. As Par says, 7-OXO transdermally, 7-OH orally.

I'm currently 1 week in on a trial 7-OH run. I'll give feedback in due time.

I disagree...Gram for Gram Protein supplementation is bar far cheaper.

Glad to see you're a BCAA fan. ICE was one of my favorite supplements until the big downplay of glutamine. Im now giving it another run as I remember I had great recovery time from using it.

Plus it tastes good.

From my understanding, wouldn't the IR caused by EC be lost immediately post workout when one consumes their dextrose/protein/etc.? Reason being the IR caused by EC is from a.) increase in FFA and b.) cross talk between beta and insulin receptors. The insulin spike from the dextrose will greatly decrease FFA by increasing the activity of LPL and decreasing that of HSL while the activity at the insulin receptor should cease lipolysis and activity at beta receptors except in those who are extremely fat in which the insane dumping of FFA into the portal vein cannot be remedied by insulin.

I'm not arguing against the use of EC on a bulk, as I love the shit for energy, but I do believe the IR caused by EC to be rather transient.

Do you mean 6 grams of EPA/DHA? Or, what percent of a gram should the EPA/DHA content be in the 6 gram total?

It has been disussed before here, that the resulting IR is not transient, and on bulk one must be as IR as possible. I will try to dig up the thread.

edit:

ok, my bad. what was discussed was nothing more then stating the obvious - EC will cause higher blood glucose. chronic EC--> chronic higher blood glucose--> insulin resistance. nothing unsimilar to someone overeating I suppose. being IR when overeating--> gaining fat. though, spook also claimed repartiotioning properties in endo's
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thanks for the link