I started taking this supplement on sunday, one cap in the morning. Monday, tuesday and wednesday I took one cap in the morning and one cap in the evening. Today (thursday) I took one cap in the morning.
The last 3 days I have experienced some strange "side effects" that I have never ever felt or experienced with another supplement of this kind (I have used AMP, HEAT, Lipo-6, Hydroxycut hardcore and more).
When I take one cap in the morning (about 0600) I feel ok, I start work at 0730. The first effect I noticed after starting Venom was that I feel cold all day long, I'm usually hot. I get goosebumps/the chills many times during the day and have cold hands (no vascularity).
About 1100 I start getting red in my face, especially round my eyes and cheeks. My ears feel like they are on fire. The rest of my body feel cold and my head is on fire. This feeling that starts 1100 I have felt for 3 days.
I took my BP and it was 125/85, pulse 90 (not totally resting) and my temp. 27 degrees. My oxygen saturation was 97%.
The last days I can't sleep at night, after sleeping 3 hours I wake up and can't sleep again before an hour or so has passed. I have no problem with my sleep patterns usually.
The clock is now 1745 and I am not as red in my face, but I feel sense of pressure in my face (especially cheeks). I have just taken 1 cap today.
My dick is in "withdrawal", its "hiding". Just like the feeling you get if one would use to much ephedrin.
Some logical and normal reasons for this condition:
- Venom Hyperdrive 3.0
- I have a stressfull job
- I started on sunday with a "metabolic shift" eating a lot less calories than I usually do and just fat and protein ("no" carbs).
- I was dumb and took one cap in the morning and one in the evening. I read on this forum yesterday that Venom has a 16 hour halflife and should only be taken in the morning.
I have lost 7 pounds since sunday!
What do you guys think? Anyone experience something like this?
My Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 hasn't all the ingredients listed on the attachment I posted (that I found on ALRI's homepage). Mine doesn't contain hoodia, guggul extracta and rhodiola rosea extract
Sir Savage
Feb 8 2007, 12:40 PM
Sounds like extreme vasoconstriction, among other things.
Damn man, I don't think I'd keep taking it, if I were you.
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Sounds like extreme vasoconstriction, among other things.
Damn man, I don't think I'd keep taking it, if I were you.
I took my last cap today for a while (or forever)!
I will see if my body starts to act normal again soon!
My temp. was 37 degrees, not 27!
A reply from another forum:
Check your PM's.
I highly doubt where you bought the product has anything to do with it. This sounds like a very rare reaction to the product, but I have seen it before.
When I ran Venom Hyperdrive 3.0, I experienced what's known as the "prostate pinch." When I would urinate, I would also simultaneously orgasm and semen would seep out of my penis. Even when I was finished urinating, semen would seep out of my penis. This happened enough times for me to clearly say that it is due to the product.
I also had a very difficult time achieving, and sometimes maintaining an erection while this product was in my system.
I emailed ALR Industries about it and I will briefly relay the response. There was a study conducted a while back on sleep deprived, low testosterone lab rats. When there were administered methamphetamines (cocaine I believe), the lab rats would involuntarily ejaculate and were unable to achieve an erection.
At the time I had just finished up a post cycle therapy. My testosterone levels were SKY HIGH!! I was also sleeping 9 hours each night. The jist of the report cited by ALR Industries compared the EFFECTS of the ingredients in Venom HD 3.0 to cocaine. My mother-in-law (grew up in the 70's) used speed a few times when younger. She stated that Venom HD 3.0 reminded her terribly of how she felt on speed, and it wasn't a good reaction.
Sooo....is there anything to be alarmed about. Yes. But I have seen this happen in so few #'s of individuals that you are I are simply SOL on this product. The vast majority of Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 users never experience the above mentioned side effects. Some individuals like you and I however just don't quite agree with it. So with that being said, it is best to simply stay away from the product.
Like you, I too have used many stimulant products, especially higher doses of ephedrine back in the day. For whatever reason, my physiology does not agree with this product, and it sounds like yours does not either.
I am in no way trying to discredit or slam on ALR Industries. They are a highly respectable company with a fantastic staff, great customer service, and a fantastically effective product line that I have used and loved. This is simply a side effect that is worth mentioning because, although it rarely happens, it does happen in a few users, and people need to be made aware of it.
Think of it this way. Some people have terrible reactions to aspirin, but that doesn't mean that aspirin is a terrible product. It just means that a few individuals cannot take advantage of the benefits aspirin has to provide for the vast majority of users.
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