Targex Log:

OK, well most of the testers maintain fairly low bf%, and as you can see by the mm. measurements below, I do not fall into that category. Started on 1/29:

1.5 cc spread over abdomen, .5cc split between both nipples. Here's the mm. measurements for my abdomen. C = center, R = right side, etc...
C: 36 mm
R: 50
L: 50

I had/have a pretty wicked case of pubescent gyno from a combination of genetics and heavy pot smoking, so here are my deplorable chest fat readings. Granted, I could've picked smaller places to measure, but IMO the best way to get accurate readings from calipers is to ALWAYS pick the spot(s) that are the largest. This accomplishes two things: no cheating(intentional or subconscious), less error. So after the third week (after being off for one week) the before/after pics and mm. measurements should line up.

Rn: 43 mm.
Ln: 40 mm.

Initial impressions: Dries quickly. Good for convenience, maybe not so good for transdermal absorption? -I'm not sure on this though. Pump leaked, dumped some in a 4oz amber glass bottle and use 1cc dropper to administer; problem solved easily enough. Doesn't leave a strong residue or scent, which is good for those of us w/ children or anyone who asks too many questions.


I'm also coming off a six month layoff. Any cardio and/or weight training was sporadic during the past six months, maybe twice a week, full body splits. Diet was horrible. Lots of fast food, take out, garbage. All that changed as of 1/29 when I began this log.

I don't plan on keeping regular, workout logs, but being as these were my first few workouts after the six month layoff, and I wanted to see if the Targex had any sides or desirable effects during training or cardio such as excessive sweating, palpitations, or anything else:

First day back at the gym: Back/Chest: 3 working sets each, plus abs/obliques/lumbar work. 30 mins treadmill at 3 mph incline of 4. Diet was good today. Not great, but good.

2/1: Legs/Traps. Same thing, light, "ease into it" workout. 40 mins on treadmill w/ same speed/incline

2/3: Shoulders/arms. ditto above.

2/5/7: After superbowl gluttony, didn't bother taking caliper measurements. Retaining water, could be from Targex, could be from the 6000 calories I consumed yesterday (if you saw the spread at this party you wouldn't blame me).


Does anyone see any advantages of applying either extra, less, or no Targex during the cheat day?

I would think that given the fact a caloric deficit is not in place during a cheat day,Targex would be wasteful.

Acutely and highly dosed bezafibrate should be your bestest buddy for cheat meals/binges.

Anyway,I'm looking forward to seeing how you make out with the trial,I've got a similiar situation with pubescent gyno.I'd throw some E-Form onto your arms/shoulders/anyplace but your chest twice a day as it may be helpful WRT gyno (far fetched concept though) but at the least,the estrogen supression will give you a kick and I'd surmise a kick,strength wise would be good after a 6 month lay off.

My computer is fried. It contains the log results, in depth, for the past two weeks. I'm at work now but to make a long story short: Noticed a 3 lb. drop in total weight during the two week Targex log. Within a day of stopping, my entire body started to "drain" if you will. The water weight that normally goes along w/ the first two weeks of a diet never came off until after I stopped the Targex. Then it came off quick. I dropped another nine lbs. from the past Monday to today, Friday 2/16. Caliper readings from Monday were random, some up, some down. I'm getting my Mac back on Tuesday, and I'll post the whole log, along w/ any further notes then.

My appologies to VIP supps. This has been a hellish week to say the least. Targex does however seem to have an effect, even on those of us who need more than a little "tightening up" Also, I thought the bottle was good for one, two-week cycle, but I have a little less than half left, and I'm positive I was using 1cc twice daily.

I'm gonna take three weeks off then go back and use the rest of the bottle.

I'M BACK BITCHEZ!!

OK, I just had to get that out, after having no computer and 2/3 less income for nearly three weeks. I never realized how dependant I was on Internet access and this computer in general. It felt similar, albeit weaker, to having a broken heart or something. Nuff of that, to the log:

02/12/07

Stopped dosing Targex today. During the past two weeks I lost two pounds. I also noticed that the water-weight that usually starts coming off around the forth or fifth day of a diet didn't start coming off until about an hour ago; six p.m. Caliper measurements for this morning:

C: 35 -v- 36
R: 47 -v- 50
L: 50 -v- 50
Rn: 43 -vs- 43
Ln: 44 -v- 40

According to my scale, I dropped from 231 to 225 during the two weeks. I'm also holding 52.4% water. The way these scales (and most techniques) measure bf% do not take bone density into account, it also said I'm 24.2% bf. At 225 lbs. and 5'11", that would mean my entire skeleton and muscular-skeletal system only weighs about 50 lbs or 22 kg.

Other Supps:

Pre/during workout: Steel-Edge w/ EAA's
Post: 50g waxy-maize starch/50g EvoPro
Spread during the day: -Multi, Intra-X-Cell (ß-alanine, four-six divided doses), Basic Cuts in the morning, Sesamin.

I don't attribute much to the caliper readings. Some went up, some went down. And I used the same spots (use small moles or blemishes to mark my spots). I'm already starting to "drain out" so to speak, so we'll see how the next week goes.

2/26/07

Off for two weeks now, this stuff defiantly works, even for us Endomorphs (fat-asses). The first week I stopped dosing the Targex, nothing changed in terms of my diet, caloric expenditure, or supplements (save for the Targex). However, I noticed a pronounced diuretic effect that lasted ~10 days; lessening as the days went on. My caliper readings from this morning speak volumes:

Abdomen:
C: 28 v. 36
R: 36 v. 50
L: 34 v. 50

Chest:
Rn: 34 v. 43
Ln: 35 v. 40

As is apparent from the caliper readings, which are averages of 6 readings using different angles (I figured that'd be the best way to get a fair and accurate measurement), this stuff works. After a two week layoff, I began another cycle of it specifically on my nipples this past monday. I'm also using a 1cc syringe to measure it so I get an exact dose. Gonna run it for another two weeks to see if the fat-loss was just the usual, acellerated fat-loss during the first two weeks of a diet/exercise program, or if it really has a noteable affect. One thing though, anyone who saw me w/ my shirt off noticed, which never happens during the first two weeks of a diet.

My appologies to VIPsupps for the delay. -V

delays happen.its ok,thank u for your logg its appreciated.i never get tired of seeing the positive results
no longer surprised of course,but always very pleased

in regards to the mentioning of calorie excess or deficet and more/less targ.not really an issue imo.targ is working via blunting cortisol locally.sort of a different animal altogether here.certainly not wasteful either way considering.
for cheat days i would suggest giving the DCP try for sure

one tip that i have come to learn,is the application preworkout.depending on when one works out.if you are working out soon after your monring application its not an issue.just apply the second application later in the evening or before bed as is the norm.
if u train sometime in between i think it is best to give the second application right before working out so it helps blunt the cortisol release from your workout.as that is its mechanism of action and where it gets its magical mojo.either spread out your applications a bit more to make three applications with same amt of total ml's per day or simply add a third dose if it doesnt bother you..or your wallet.and considering the low price on the bottle it shouldnt.

water retention issue.will be fixed with the upcoming new release of targex ultra.just not sure when that will be exactly yet.
for now,keep in mind,not everyone experiences this,and it is only temporary.so when running it its good to be aware so one doesnt think its not working

thanks again for the logg.to anyone else interested please visit my forum where there is more infomation and a bunch of other loggs as well.thanks!

-I'll get my hands on some DCP as soon as my bank account increases enough to make me a "hundredaire" once again.

-Considering that Targex both causes water retention, and blunts cortisol locally, could there possibly be a further use for this compound as a topical site-enhancemant agent, similar to the now defunct "Synthenhance?"

-The water retention is a good thing IMO. It prevents much of the electrolyte-related issues associated w/ the first week or two of dieting; especially w/ ketogenic diets. During the duration of my log I never got a single muscle cramp nor became dehydrated. Most importantly, this side-effect also prevents the dreaded "diet breath" caused by dehydration and electrolyte imbalances.

After you reformulate it, I'd still like to have the original formula as an option for when immediate results aren't really necessary. Besides, unlike yohimbine-based topicals, the water-retention dissipates almost immediately when you stop. I must've lost 7 or 8 pounds in the two days after I stopped. Purely water of course, and most of it came back in the following days, but I took those caliper readings a full week after stopping so the results definately are not from dehydration.