H factor
Feb 19 2007, 03:13 PM
I've had Swole V2 for a while now, and have recently began taking it. I wanted to give it a try as I'd heard some good things about it. I was killing time before class when I came upon this article at t-nation.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459369In this it mentions that two components of Swole V2 are not only worthless for muscle, but dangerous to me. Does anyone have an opinion on this? I hope this hasn't been discussed before, it's been a while since I've been here!
Kimbo
Feb 19 2007, 03:38 PM
QUOTE(H factor @ Feb 19 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]388151[/snapback]
I've had Swole V2 for a while now, and have recently began taking it. I wanted to give it a try as I'd heard some good things about it. I was killing time before class when I came upon this article at t-nation.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459369In this it mentions that two components of Swole V2 are not only worthless for muscle, but dangerous to me. Does anyone have an opinion on this? I hope this hasn't been discussed before, it's been a while since I've been here!
GPA isn't dangerous, but it is counterproductive to use it in a product with creatine, as it's basically "anti-creatine".
Sir Savage
Feb 19 2007, 04:57 PM
Yep. It's a curious addition to a "cell-volumizer", since it depletes creatine stores.
H factor
Feb 19 2007, 06:46 PM
Well I have three quarters of a bottle left...So just keep downing it to get rid of it? Also, is 500 mg enough to make it "anti-creatine?" Anything I can do to lesson or counteract the effects of the two compounds?
Quinc
Feb 19 2007, 08:14 PM
i used the first swole v.2 that came out.. and i got great results for the first few days untill i started shiting 15x a day
H factor
Feb 19 2007, 08:36 PM
Crapping hasn't been a factor, I'm normal so far.
H factor
Feb 19 2007, 08:56 PM
Now I really don't know what to think. Seems as if some studies say it's good and some studies say it isn't? What to believe?
From another article.
"Studies on guanidinopropionic acid show that it can be useful to athletes in a number of ways.
Research has shown that guanidinopropionic acid can help to improve insulin function, promote weight loss, improve your muscles ability to contract, increase your body's creatine uptake1, and, most importantly, help to make your muscles appear more prominent!2
Some clinical studies have demonstrated that guanidinopropionic acid can damage protein3, is sometimes toxic4, and that it can disrupt creatine uptake.5
However, it should be noted that the ability of guanidinopropionic acid to damage protein is minimal within the context of the athletes high protein diet, that the levels required to reach toxicity are well beyond recommended dosages, and that its ability to "disrupt" creatine uptake does NOT mean that it "inhibits" creatine uptake.
This can be logically demonstrated by considering that guanidinopropionic acid helps the body uptake creatine, thus allowing the body to use MORE creatine. It therefore cannot both help the body absorb MORE creatine AND cause the body to absorb LESS creatine at the same time and in the same way."
TomE
May 30 2007, 05:45 PM
Have you got a link to that artical?