I just got a bottle of Havoc and I was curious, when does it expire? The bottle shows no lot number or expiration date.

I hope the lack of lot code and expiration is an error or oversight as I would hope the company complies with FDA regulations. I checked my bottles of DCP and Gut Health and they contain both lot and expiration numbers. So, I called someone who has a bottle of Havoc and he stated it has both a lot # and expiration date. Since your bottle lacks this it's possible it could be counterfeit or an error in the labeling process. You might want to exchange it just in case though.

But to answer your question the expiration on an acquitance's Havoc stated 3/10.

The first run came back with no expiration date. As mentioned, this is not correct procedure, and so we switched to a different production facility. The expiration is 3 years after date of production, so those original bottles will be good for 30-33 months.

It would be nice to know if epistane molecules are stable.

If it is, Havoc should be good "forever," if preserved in a refrigerator.

I remember Mike had M-diene out, and it was inert.

Either that stuff was completely underdosed, or it was disintegrating.

I think it was the latter (Giving Mike the benefit of doubt).

So should we be storing Havoc in the fridge????

I would.

As a "general" rule, lowering temperature helps slow down the rate of most chemical reactions, including breakdowns.

As for whether this would specifically help Havoc last longer -- the manufacturer of Havoc's actves would probably have much better idea. The manufacturer would know all the reactions that are involved in making the stuff.