http://scivation.com/catalog/product_info....;products_id=80
Trying to get the product in people's hands to try out. This stuff normally runs around 27 bucks on retail sites. This is good till 12pm tomorrow. Enjoy
Full Version: Primal N20 from primaforce for 10 bucks
Thanks...just ordered 3. I'll be sure to post feedback once my VasoXplode runs out.
I ordered some this morning, can't wait. Never really been fond of pre-workout NO supps, haven't taken any since I took Storm 2 years ago. We'll see how this does.
QUOTE(lethaljd @ May 12 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]401368[/snapback]
Thanks...just ordered 3. I'll be sure to post feedback once my VasoXplode runs out.
Correct me is I'm wrong but wouldn't the results and feedback be identical between the two?
I picked up 4 myself I like the fact that this isn't a kitchen sink type formula and the elements in it seem like effective dosages on paper.
i bit. i got 3 as well..
edit: btw, I didn't see this on the site so I found this in case anyone was curious...
347 Grams Lemonade
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2Scoops(17.3g)
Servings Per Container 20
Amount Per Serving
Vitamin B3(Niacinimide) 75mg 375%
Vitamin B5(Pantethenic Acid) 50mg 500%
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine HCL) 50mg 2,500%
Vitamin B12(Methylcobalamin) 100mcg 1,667%
Primal N20™ Proprietary Blend 16,200mg †
N20Drive™ Blend 8,250mg †
(Citrulline Malate, L-Arginine Alpha KetoGlutarate 2:1, (Di-L-Arginine)-L-Malate, Citric Acid, (Di-L-Arginine) Orotate)
CreaPrime™ Blend 2,500mg †
(Creatine Monohydrate, DiCreatine Malate)
H-Primer™ Blend 2,500mg †
(Beta-Alanine, N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine)
BrainDrive™ Blend 2,450mg †
(Acetyl-L-Carnitine, N-Acetyl-Tyrosine, Caffeine (USP), DL Phenylalanine)
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Looks like it'll be "smart" (IMO) to throw in about 30 g creatine mono (if not already using) and ~25 g beta-alanine with this...
edit: btw, I didn't see this on the site so I found this in case anyone was curious...
347 Grams Lemonade
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2Scoops(17.3g)
Servings Per Container 20
Amount Per Serving
Vitamin B3(Niacinimide) 75mg 375%
Vitamin B5(Pantethenic Acid) 50mg 500%
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine HCL) 50mg 2,500%
Vitamin B12(Methylcobalamin) 100mcg 1,667%
Primal N20™ Proprietary Blend 16,200mg †
N20Drive™ Blend 8,250mg †
(Citrulline Malate, L-Arginine Alpha KetoGlutarate 2:1, (Di-L-Arginine)-L-Malate, Citric Acid, (Di-L-Arginine) Orotate)
CreaPrime™ Blend 2,500mg †
(Creatine Monohydrate, DiCreatine Malate)
H-Primer™ Blend 2,500mg †
(Beta-Alanine, N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine)
BrainDrive™ Blend 2,450mg †
(Acetyl-L-Carnitine, N-Acetyl-Tyrosine, Caffeine (USP), DL Phenylalanine)
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Looks like it'll be "smart" (IMO) to throw in about 30 g creatine mono (if not already using) and ~25 g beta-alanine with this...
Now do this with Substance! 
There is no need to add more creatine. Studies don't show any advantage of 5g vs 2.5. As far as beta-alanine, if we added any more, we were worried people's face would tingle a little to much. We're releasing a 500g beta alanine mid next week. Should sell for 28 bucks or so online.
Realize we put the real serving size on our product. A lot of companies would say 1 scoop and 40 "servings". We prefer to be real, 2 scoops is a serving.
Realize we put the real serving size on our product. A lot of companies would say 1 scoop and 40 "servings". We prefer to be real, 2 scoops is a serving.
QUOTE(1fast400 @ May 14 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]401570[/snapback]
There is no need to add more creatine. Studies don't show any advantage of 5g vs 2.5. As far as beta-alanine, if we added any more, we were worried people's face would tingle a little to much. We're releasing a 500g beta alanine mid next week. Should sell for 28 bucks or so online.
Realize we put the real serving size on our product. A lot of companies would say 1 scoop and 40 "servings". We prefer to be real, 2 scoops is a serving.
Realize we put the real serving size on our product. A lot of companies would say 1 scoop and 40 "servings". We prefer to be real, 2 scoops is a serving.
makes sense. this is a quality product though for sure and I, as well as others I'm sure, appreciate the sale.
QUOTE(rippedforce63 @ May 13 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]401409[/snapback]
Correct me is I'm wrong but wouldn't the results and feedback be identical between the two?
I picked up 4 myself I like the fact that this isn't a kitchen sink type formula and the elements in it seem like effective dosages on paper.
I picked up 4 myself I like the fact that this isn't a kitchen sink type formula and the elements in it seem like effective dosages on paper.
It should be very similar, but the VasoXplode uses CEE. Not that my mix is going to be any different since I'm going to add the bulk CEE I have left over from my NP order into this mix. Creatine Mono just doesn't cut it for me anymore!
They are exactly the same product.
Whats the point of the overlap? I don't understand the way this company is structured..
Not available anymore?
No it's not available anymore.
As far as the overlap, the companies hit different markets. Outside of a small segment on the internet, most don't know the companies share a home office. Primaforce has distribution in places scivation doesn't, same goes for scivation. Primaforce will have a lot of trouble getting into vitamin shoppe, vitamin world and gnc. They don't want to bring in a commodity brand, but scivation is already there.
My job has been to cut expenses so we can keep our prices low. Doing things like this allow that. Uniform bottles, scoopers and labels all play a factor. Same goes for the boxes they go in. There are a lot more things that go into making a product than most people realize.
As far as the overlap, the companies hit different markets. Outside of a small segment on the internet, most don't know the companies share a home office. Primaforce has distribution in places scivation doesn't, same goes for scivation. Primaforce will have a lot of trouble getting into vitamin shoppe, vitamin world and gnc. They don't want to bring in a commodity brand, but scivation is already there.
My job has been to cut expenses so we can keep our prices low. Doing things like this allow that. Uniform bottles, scoopers and labels all play a factor. Same goes for the boxes they go in. There are a lot more things that go into making a product than most people realize.
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