Seriously. After learning that my testosterone levels were way too low for my taste (but apparently not enough for my doc to worry about) I threw together a cheap test boosting stack to see if I could feel anything... and with the intention of having my doc retest me down the road.

Problem is, once I started taking it, I developed a really annoying muscle spasm or something down there. It feels like a 'tick' you'd get in a facial muscle, but it happens, I THINK in my PC muscle, just behind my scrotum (the muscle you clench when you do a kegel exercise). Took me a while to finally track it down to the garlic, which surprised me.

I've confirmed it several times over now... every time I take the garlic, I get that twitch down there, and it bugs the living hell outta me. Not sure if that means it's working, or there's something broken down there, or what... but I'd really like to know WHY.

Any ideas?

Cramp?

No, no pain associated with this at all, nothing gastrointestinal either.... just a random muscle twitch.

never heard of that.

strange

what form is the garlic you are taking?

NOW Odorless Garlic concentrate. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/805/odorless-garlic.html

I sometimes get a very funny twitch like that, I don't knowingly supplement with garlic, but some may often be in my canteen's cooking. It doesn't worry me too much though, and I don't think anything is going wrong mate, maybe they're just working harder!

Your nuts jump when the inside of your leg is tickled. I think it's a reflex, sometimes at night mine jump and wake me up. Damn jumping nuts.

how much did you take?

I missed the part where garlic is supposed to boost test..I found only one article, rat model

I started at the recommended dose, 2 caps (50mg), but I get the twitch effect from even 1 cap... although it does seem less frequent.



Yeah, just the rat model is all I've seen as well... I had noticed a number of folks recommend it, seems to have a nice list of other possible benefits, and it's cheap, figured I'd throw it in there for fun. But now I'm really curious about it because my body has a direct and immediate response to it (and that's rare for me).

go see a different doctor, could have a plumbing problem.... maybe no hormone related

Ahhhaaa... yes, you're right. I do have a hormone problem, but I might have a plumbing problem too. Still wanna know what garlic is doing to me and why.

I was thinking more about this last night... the muscle that's twitching is one of the ejaculatory muscles, and I've noticed very minor twitches there for a very short time post-orgasm... so I was thinking perhaps it was prolactin related.

You sure It's hormone related? I have wild hormones and still hav major sex drive and erection issues sometimes. Im gonna go see someone about my blood flow and my heart to suss it out... the only thing I forgot to get tested out of the 22+ I did, was prolactin, so It may be there... I also cant blow during sex.. its odd..

So I think I either have plumbing issue, blood flow(prob this one) or heart... cos my androgen level was 1500 max being 1290, my dhea is 15.5 3 points over the max...test was 24 out of 30... so they r flyin high hormonal wise... its all pear shaped and getting to me of late!!

Ive even taken cialis/viagra sometimes without them working, tho they do.. so i figure its either all iny m head, too much porn/wanking or i have an issue, other than my hormones.

:|

Good luck, no idea why garlic is causing it.. meant to be good for blood flow!

No I'm not sure the twitch/spasm is hormone related... but it is garlic related, which I was taking because of my low testosterone in the first place. I've got a total testosterone of 264 at age 34. Because the lower limit of "normal" is 250, my doctor thinks that means it's not a problem.

But this spasm isn't a normal symptom for me... it only shows up when I take garlic.

Anecdotally I believe that the twitch is definitely hormone related. I used to get it often and even more so in PCT. Was tested for low test and now am on TRT and I can say that it no longer happens. This is about a year now.

Thank you man! What were you taking for PCT that caused an increase in frequency of the twitch?

If I go in and tell the doc this happens when I take garlic, I know he'll just say, "then don't take garlic". I'm curious if I can duplicate the sypmtom with something other than garlic. Trib doesn't do it... LongJack doesn't do it... I've yet to try an AI or SERM though.

Well, I duplicated it tonight without garlic.

Took 6 caps (stim non-responder) of RPM, Applied Nutra's new pre-workout/test booster/etc.. which has a high concentrate of icariin, and an hour later did the most massive squat workout of my life. I squatted my fucking ass off. That damn muscle was jumping for about 2 hours after the workout.

This is my second try with RPM and it didn't do this the first time, but I didn't squat my brains out the first time.