Who wants to hear about it? If I get enough people interested, I'll keep a log... Anyone here actually know what this is? Probably not.
It's toxic as fuck, and amazing.

I'm interested in a log. Also curious as to why you chose to use oral tren as opposed to other delivery methods as transdermal and injectable tren seems to be easily had through cattle implants.

It is fucking injectable.
I'll be injecting about 1/10 cc ED.
Very potent,powerfull,and toxic. Only one place I know of to get it.

My bad

I would like to see a log, especially if you promise to have someone include a copy of your autopsy report.

So if you are injecting it, what benefit does the methylation convey?

From the manufacturer:

"Please Note: This stuff is powerful and toxic, do not use unless you understand how to properly use it. I find it very effective and much less toxic when injected, however, you can use it orally if you wish. The injection also creates a "depot" and will release the drug into your system slowly. I recommend 250mcg (1/20cc) ED to start, for no longer than 6-8 weeks. Never go higher than 1mg per day (2/10cc) unless you are positive your liver can take it. The results will amaze you. I saw better results with 1mg daily then I did with 300mg daily of Trenbolone A. Inject IM with a slin pin/syringe. 10ml will last you a well over a year at 250mcg assuming "time on = time off""

Manufacturer? Or the seller?

Whoever wrote above doesn't know much it seems. There's no reason to be less toxic if injected, it will still pass liver and be metabolized. How he knows it's less toxic?
Another BS is that by injecting it, it creates depot?!? "Depots" are created differently. Simply injecting oral won't make it depo.

It will stil pass the liver, however it will be a more gradual event instead of all at once, so it will likelly strain it a bit less.
About methylation making it stronger, or weaker, at least for me it is hard to imagine how chemicals interact with their receptors, but I guess it would depend heavily on wich carbon it is the methyl group. What seems to be a fact is that methylated steroids behave diferently that parent compounds, and intuitivelly it is easy to think that it is due to changes in how it binds to the androgen and glucocorticoid receptors.

It isn't an "oral".
I don't know anything about the science on either side, but I do what he says as far as toxicity and results is spot on.

your "supplier" mentioned "you can use it orally" so it's an oral

without lab tests it's hard to speak of toxicity, much less speak of difference (if any) when injecting compared to oral route

but hey, it's your body and if your "manufacturer" says so he must be right

if i were you i would make sure to take 30g of soy lecithin, 3g SESAMIN, 1600mg of nac and a ton of sylmarin.............just to make sure you are gonna survive!!

My close friends tried it first da_sense. Thanks.
They got blood tests, what he claims checked out.
Maybe he might actually than you on this one?

Aren't you an aas -> US supplier? With script of course... Not nice to talk down about sources.

i'm not us supplier......
that "source" is a shame and threat to everybody. I don't know who he is and i don't care (actually i don't know or communicate with any "sources")
but advising people to use untested and very toxic substances just like that is very irresponsible and dangerous. i never "officially" gave or would give any advices on AAS use. Everyone should either consult a doctor or expert on that matter before using any AAS or research chemical.

This "source" is not threat or a shame to anybody.
He is filling a demand, hence he is a "supplier".
And "untested' is relative... What's he's offering has alot more science behind it than half of the shit the aas crowd takes.
And you don't supply to the US? Funny, my friend would beg to differ with his bag of var and tamoxifen.

What I meant is that I'm not based in US.

As for the rest...to each his own...

Really? Can you post some studies of methylated tren, I am very curious...

Touche' Benson.

I will "attempt" to dig some research up. What I was comparing was the testing done on this compound versus, say, havoc or "methoxy-test" or any of the other overnight PH's.
As far as "testing", my friends did get lab tests, two were injecting one was drinking, and was he said seemed to pan out as far as toxicity... Not that bad at 1/10 a cc injected, worse at .75/10 oral.

Try "synthetic androgen R1881" or metribolone or R1881.

More terms from pubmed

17 beta-Hydroxy-17 alpha-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one
Methyltrienolone
R-1881
R 1881
R1881
Ru-1881
Ru 1881
Ru1881

http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/showthre...ighlight=methyl

Haha, thanks Grassroots.

You should start with 200mcg per day. This stuff hurts your liver like hell. Build it up slowly

Who are you AW?
And your right, i'm taking it at 200mcg.

so did you die?

I hope so!

Awesome.

bump!
Death? 16 lbs in 2 weeks? Liver Transplantation? Conversion to Christianity?

Methylation gives the androgen other properties besides increased oral bioavailability. Methyltated androgens seem to have less affinity for SBHG, and this would make the methylated version more anabolic mg for mg compared to the non-methylated one. Take, for example, injected methyl-testosterone and compare it to injected testosterone. The former will be more potent mg for mg. Another good example: 1-test vs methyl-1-test... I guess 20mg of oral M1T would be more anabolic than 100mg of transdermal 1T (which would yield approximately 20-30mg of 1T).

I don't know whether the methyl group gives the androgen more differences other than less affinity for SHBG and longer half life.