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SupremeDan
It has been discussed here some time ago about the possible usage of large qty of egg yolks for BB purposes do to its arachdonic acid content.

I have been eating between 8-12 EXTRA LARGE WHOLE eggs the last couple of weeks...

RESULTS??? in 5-6 days you start to feel the power of AA......nothing short from amazing..

Pumps in the GYM has been TREN like.........vascularity has increased dramatically, gained 3lbs of weight wich i believe is mostly muscle, Muscle hardness is TREN LIKE....yes....tren like....and DOMS are much more pronounced......Muscle stays full all the time even when not in the gym and vascularity is also consistent....

Impressed........
amazing..

OBS: and donīt forget all the protein and nutrients you get with such perfection from nature.....
Ras
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 29 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]409829[/snapback]
It has been discussed here some time ago about the possible usage of large qty of egg yolks for BB purposes do to its arachdonic acid content.

I have been eating between 8-12 EXTRA LARGE WHOLE eggs the last couple of weeks...

RESULTS??? in 5-6 days you start to feel the power of AA......nothing short from amazing..

Pumps in the GYM has been TREN like.........vascularity has increased dramatically, gained 3lbs of weight wich i believe is mostly muscle, Muscle hardness is TREN LIKE....yes....tren like....and DOMS are much more pronounced......Muscle stays full all the time even when not in the gym and vascularity is also consistent....

Impressed........
amazing..

OBS: and donīt forget all the protein and nutrients you get with such perfection from nature.....


Agreed entirely.
nelix
I saw eggs at the market today... 24 for 4 bucks... I reckon cost wise I can do 6 a day for a few weeks, I might try whole eggs in my take on the velocity diet.
((Vibe))
I've got a question for you. You said you've been doing this for several weeks now, not to sound overly juvenile, but ...Did the egg farts diminish with time?? That's the only thing that keeps me from doing this.
SupremeDan
QUOTE(((Vibe)) @ Jun 29 2007, 05:21 AM) [snapback]409842[/snapback]
I've got a question for you. You said you've been doing this for several weeks now, not to sound overly juvenile, but ...Did the egg farts diminish with time?? That's the only thing that keeps me from doing this.


well...i only get gets gases on eggs if i eat them coocked or raw.....

for some reason ther is no gas issues if you eat scrambled eggs, or fried eggs...

if i eat one or 2 coocked eggs i allready start to get the gases....but with scrambled i can eat 12 and feel no gas...

I wonder what is the mechanism for this........ huh.gif
Godmode
Aren't scrambled eggs and fried eggs subsets of cooked eggs? Do you mean hard-boiled?

By the way, I agree fully as well.

So tasty, too. Kosher salt, fresh ground pepper.. that's the only way to start your day.
Ras
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 29 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]409829[/snapback]
It has been discussed here some time ago about the possible usage of large qty of egg yolks for BB purposes do to its arachdonic acid content.

I have been eating between 8-12 EXTRA LARGE WHOLE eggs the last couple of weeks...

RESULTS??? in 5-6 days you start to feel the power of AA......nothing short from amazing..

Pumps in the GYM has been TREN like.........vascularity has increased dramatically, gained 3lbs of weight wich i believe is mostly muscle, Muscle hardness is TREN LIKE....yes....tren like....and DOMS are much more pronounced......Muscle stays full all the time even when not in the gym and vascularity is also consistent....

Impressed........
amazing..

OBS: and donīt forget all the protein and nutrients you get with such perfection from nature.....


Don't forget LECITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
SupremeDan
QUOTE(Godmode @ Jun 29 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]409865[/snapback]
Aren't scrambled eggs and fried eggs subsets of cooked eggs? Do you mean hard-boiled?

By the way, I agree fully as well.

So tasty, too. Kosher salt, fresh ground pepper.. that's the only way to start your day.


yeah....it means hard boiled....hard boiled and coocked are the same thing...to cook a egg you generally boile it...
Godmode
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 29 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]409870[/snapback]
yeah....it means hard boiled....hard boiled and coocked are the same thing...to cook a egg you generally boile it...

You could boil it, or fry it, or poach it, or scramble it. Eggs are versatile in that way. Cooked just means "not raw."

Perhaps we are encountering a language barrier.

At any rate, I agree, hard boiled eggs give me flatulence.
Hypnoracetam


I bought this stuff from the supermarket yesterday that on the label says "Free range chopped hard boiled egg in mayonaisse", that is really tasty.

No 'flatulence issues' either, that I've noticed.

(BTW, for upset tummy from food, Betaine may help. Also Ginger.)


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Ras
QUOTE(Godmode @ Jun 29 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]409871[/snapback]
You could boil it, or fry it, or poach it, or scramble it. Eggs are versatile in that way. Cooked just means "not raw."

Perhaps we are encountering a language barrier.

At any rate, I agree, hard boiled eggs give me flatulence.


Time to break out Levi-Strauss's The Raw and the Cooked. What's the ontological status of smoked eggs?
nelix
Omega-3 eggs (chickens are fed fish meal, about 170EPA 200DHA 60ALA) worse or better for this plan?

SupremeDan
QUOTE(nelix @ Jun 29 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]409923[/snapback]
Omega-3 eggs (chickens are fed fish meal, about 170EPA 200DHA 60ALA) worse or better for this plan?


worse..
SupremeDan
serious...not joking....

this is the closest thing i ever felt to steroids....... i can say that if this keeps going like this that i have no more need to take steroids ...

Imagine such tyoe of fiet with steroids???? shit........probably the best gains in history!!
Xel
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 29 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]409932[/snapback]
serious...not joking....

this is the closest thing i ever felt to steroids....... i can say that if this keeps going like this that i have no more need to take steroids ...

Imagine such tyoe of fiet with steroids???? shit........probably the best gains in history!!

I've gone periods of eating 12+ eggs per day and never noticed anything special from it.

Are you eating fertilized eggs?
Supnut
I like dill on my scrambled eggs


I also like to cook them REALLY slow so that I get a skin on the bottom of the pan you remove by stirring the spatula around the pan constantly. I dislike the overly fluffy eggs that you somehow always seem to accidentally inhale down a lung.
Bachovas
One of the benefits of third world countries is the rather 'outdated' food (production) industry.

Amongst other things, it allows stuff to be high fructose corn syrup free (like cereals, ketchup, sodas, etc) and eggs relatively free range and hormones free.
ozzman
QUOTE
and eggs relatively free range and hormones free.


not so much...try again
Godmode
It is true, however, that the quality of raw materials in countries like the United States is below world standards.. ordering the plain steak might be a good idea in Latin America, but in the U.S., you do better to go with composition-intensive rather than ingredient-intensive foods.

But no, this is not because eggs in the third world are free-range and hormone free. Confinement farming is huge in the third world and disease is rampant. The quality of raw materials is based on short shipping distances and storage times not because they have exceptionally 'ethical' or healthy farming practices.
Benson
Watch for biotin deficiency.
rkieltyk
somehow from the thread title i knew it was supremedan's topic

i have been eating ~8 large whole eggs a day (scrambled) along with 2 c egg whites. nothing really too noticeable, though I probably weigh considerably more than SD
Bachovas
QUOTE(ozzman @ Jun 29 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]409975[/snapback]
not so much...try again


Ever have huevos criollos? As we call those eggs that are completely free range and hormones free, i.e. families raising chickens in their backyard?

A half hour drive from any major city can take you to a rural town where someone sells them. Stands with people selling fruit are also quite common in rural zones and roads between urban areas. Those fruits happen to be organic...they sure didn't mean to, they just don't know any other way.

Funny story, I felt I was at a supermarket at home for a quick second when in an organic store in OKC I saw a basket full of organic tomatos...so...earthy.

But that's right, there's many more factors that make it that way. Mostly the same ones that make the country 'third world' in the first place.
liorrh
problem is I only eat yolks from organic(free range, etc) eggs and those eggs are expsnive here (twice as regualr ones)
SupremeDan
If you are bulking ....eating your carbs and all...i think you deftinelly notice the difference......itīs really significant.....if you are cutting speacially carb restricting you will lose most of the PUMP efect and wonīt see muscle growing........maybe just more sore...

anyways....extra large egg yolks are about double the sise of the large egg yolks...at least here in brasil..........8 extra large yolks give me about 1g of aa.......12 give me 1.5g.........
Burton
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 29 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]409929[/snapback]
worse..


Why?
SupremeDan
cause you wonīt less epa while using AA for anabolism.....
noos
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 30 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]410131[/snapback]
cause you wonīt less epa while using AA for anabolism.....



Eicosapentaenoic acid affects the anabolic action of free branched amino acids?. So one has to avoid e.g. flax oil while bulking?. Sorry if it is too basic.
SupremeDan
QUOTE(noos @ Jun 30 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]410169[/snapback]
Eicosapentaenoic acid affects the anabolic action of free branched amino acids?. So one has to avoid e.g. flax oil while bulking?. Sorry if it is too basic.


AA in this thread stands for ARACHDONIC ACID....not amino acids...
Burton
Never really read up much on AA, cause honestly it never interested me, but thanks for the info all the same. I'll probably look into the specifics regardless as I'm just kinda curious now.
Heavy_Lifter85
QUOTE(Benson @ Jun 29 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]409988[/snapback]
Watch for biotin deficiency.


I think the biotin deficiency only develops if the whites are eaten raw. Cooking should destroy the avidin.
Heavy_Lifter85
QUOTE(SupremeDan @ Jun 30 2007, 06:11 AM) [snapback]410093[/snapback]
8 extra large yolks give me about 1g of aa.......12 give me 1.5g.........


How much of the AA do you suppose would be oxidized (destroyed) by the cooking process? I think raw or hard boiled would be the best bet for avoiding this.
Heavy_Lifter85
QUOTE(nelix @ Jun 29 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]409923[/snapback]
Omega-3 eggs (chickens are fed fish meal, about 170EPA 200DHA 60ALA) worse or better for this plan?


Read the old logs on X-Factor with and without fish oil to compare the results. Or check the newest suggestions for the proper use of X-Factor from Molecular Nutrition. I THINK the conclusion was that omega-3's won't reduce the effects of AA.
startingserious
interesting, perhaps someone could answer some qs for me:

1) Cholesterol is supposedly not an issue if 'unoxidised' - therefore are we supposed to be eating our yolks raw? Perhaps this is also true for AA

2) How does egg consumption go as far as general health/acid-alkaline balance etc?

cheers

Heavy_Lifter85
QUOTE(startingserious @ Jul 2 2007, 05:30 AM) [snapback]410388[/snapback]
1) Cholesterol is supposedly not an issue if 'unoxidised' - therefore are we supposed to be eating our yolks raw? Perhaps this is also true for AA


That is what Dr. Mercola maintains.

Cooking with a broken yolk would surely oxidize both cholesterol and AA. Not sure about hard-boiling.
SupremeDan
please keep in mind that this load of AA has to be cycled if you want to prevent side effects....i am on my third week doing this and i am starting to get side effects. pain in joints, ligaments and bones.....not really a bad pain...but like a DOMS pain....but in the bones and ligaments....

methodice
How is the egg brigade going? I just had 7 for breakfast...lets see what happens.
rock_ten
In the last 12 months I've had 450,000 calories from eggs - 90 'very large' eggs per week. Before that I just had 6 per day for a couple of years.

I loved them and they worked SO well with my digestion etc - 8 eggs with butter is the best breakfast for general ownage.

Unfortunately, or maybe not really, since experimentally ceasing egg consumption a week or two ago the excema I had on my hands has improved dramatically. I can only conclude that the high-egg consumption was promoting the condition. Although it didn't cause it in the first place - I've had problems with it long before I started eating eggs.
Hopefully if I can manage to fully own the excema (it comes and goes.. been here all year this time though) then I might be able to return to eating eggs at some level. But for now I really shouldn't sad.gif
Aeternitatis
Certain pre-existing conditions (such as excema) can definitely be exacerbated with increased AA consumption. Generally I would assume the DHA content of the eggs could mediate this... but it is known that low-quality store brand eggs (ie, not cage-free/organic) have lower amounts of DHA.
EasyEJL
I checked with Egglands Best (they have a patent on a feed system that generates high omega 3 eggs) and their medium eggs have 100mg of omega 3, and 60mg of AA. Theirs are available in cartons of 12 or 18, as well as in a bag of 10 pre-hardboiled + peeled (for $2.79). From what I can tell, hard boiling doesn't affect AA. I'm eating a dozen a day between those and regular x-large eggs (about 70-75mg AA from government data), on top of 1000mg of AA from x-factor. In 3 days of that, i've lost 5lbs on the scale, and from personal pinch testing it seems to be mostly fat disappearing
Heavy_Lifter85
QUOTE(methodice @ Oct 6 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]427334[/snapback]
How is the egg brigade going? I just had 7 for breakfast...lets see what happens.


One dozen for lunch today!
SupremeDan
still eating 6-12 extra large eggs day.......

not gaining anymore explosive mass because not been able to increase calories........but gaining slowly at maitainece calories......

I like eggs for my digestion and the pumps are the best of my life.....
Popa Murph
Dan, I'm curious if you are supplementing with any fish oil?
Grassroots082
How are you guys preparing these to eat? Scrambled, boiled, raw ect ect.
rock_ten
QUOTE(rock_ten @ Oct 14 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]428851[/snapback]
In the last 12 months I've had 450,000 calories from eggs - 90 'very large' eggs per week. Before that I just had 6 per day for a couple of years.

I loved them and they worked SO well with my digestion etc - 8 eggs with butter is the best breakfast for general ownage.

Unfortunately, or maybe not really, since experimentally ceasing egg consumption a week or two ago the excema I had on my hands has improved dramatically. I can only conclude that the high-egg consumption was promoting the condition. Although it didn't cause it in the first place - I've had problems with it long before I started eating eggs.
Hopefully if I can manage to fully own the excema (it comes and goes.. been here all year this time though) then I might be able to return to eating eggs at some level. But for now I really shouldn't sad.gif



dudes - does anyone have any ideas how I could neutralise whatever it is from the eggs that would be owning my excema? If its the AA then I guess there's nothing I could really do - maybe loads of fish oil? In another thread I got the following advice:

QUOTE(graatch @ Sep 29 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]425783[/snapback]
Thought: Eggs have a lot of sulfur. You might be exceeding your personal ability to metabolize it, which will definitely cause autoimmune problems.

Molybdenum is the cofactor for sulfite oxidase, could try supplementing



How likely do you think that could be the cause?

If instead of either of those possibilities it was due to some specific "normal" allergy, should I expect to notice other symptoms from eating the eggs? As it happens, they make me feel great, and apart from the excema I'd say they were pretty much the best food I could eat.

--Joe
JBarna
QUOTE(Grassroots082 @ Oct 25 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]431471[/snapback]
How are you guys preparing these to eat? Scrambled, boiled, raw ect ect.


I love scrambled eggs for bfast, but i can also do boiled if i just need something during the day.

Have we ever figured out the actual point of overcooking your eggs and denaturing the AA's?
Proton Soup
QUOTE(rock_ten @ Oct 26 2007, 02:19 AM) [snapback]431661[/snapback]
dudes - does anyone have any ideas how I could neutralise whatever it is from the eggs that would be owning my excema? If its the AA then I guess there's nothing I could really do - maybe loads of fish oil? In another thread I got the following advice:
How likely do you think that could be the cause?

If instead of either of those possibilities it was due to some specific "normal" allergy, should I expect to notice other symptoms from eating the eggs? As it happens, they make me feel great, and apart from the excema I'd say they were pretty much the best food I could eat.

--Joe


cholesterol, maybe. if you're not already doing it, try some sun exposure for the eczema. a cousin of mine seems to think swimming in the ocean is good for his, too, but maybe it's just the UV.
lordshockspeare
For those of you that live in a house that has land. (Not an apartment) You should check your local zoning laws, it turns out anywhere in Salt Lake City you can have up to twenty chickens on your land. Just as long as they are 25 feet from the nearest habited building.

I gave my parents who live in a typical suburban house two chickens. (The chickens were sort of long story how I got them)
The point is you can get your own chickens and get free access to free range organic chickens that produce delicious eggs.
Our two chickens produce an average of two eggs a day. So one chicken=1egg/day but they are old and probably not in ideal producing condition. In winter they will produce less unless we put a light in their coop.

Just thought I would through this out there. Send me a PM if you want details on urban chicken coops.

staying_alive
QUOTE(lordshockspeare @ Oct 31 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]433086[/snapback]
Just thought I would through this out there. Send me a PM if you want details on urban chicken coops.

PM sent...(how to keep them chickens quiet)
Benson
QUOTE(staying_alive @ Oct 31 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]433182[/snapback]
PM sent...(how to keep them chickens quiet)


Tiny little muzzles.
SupremeDan
QUOTE(Popa Murph @ Oct 25 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]431447[/snapback]
Dan, I'm curious if you are supplementing with any fish oil?


yes 3g year round , also eat flaxmill with my breakfast protein shake becase the flaxmeal makes me shit beautfully and prevents me from having any gases from so much food!!
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