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Kimbo
Not that I have any of this yet, but I was wondering about a few things:

- How long does it take to absorb?
- Would it be of more benefit if you were to wait for it to absorb and then lift or do cardio vs. applying it afterwards?
- Can you add capsaicin and nicotine to it ala Spookyderm? The capsaicin seems like it may be redundant with the RK's.
- Can you add clen to the formula?
Jon
QUOTE(Kimbo @ Aug 6 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]416507[/snapback]
Not that I have any of this yet, but I was wondering about a few things:

- How long does it take to absorb?
- Would it be of more benefit if you were to wait for it to absorb and then lift or do cardio vs. applying it afterwards?
- Can you add capsaicin and nicotine to it ala Spookderm? The capsaicin seems like it may be redundant with the RK's.
- Can you add clen to the formula?


have you added nicotine to a topical before? If so, did you order pure nicotine?
Kimbo
QUOTE(Jon @ Aug 6 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]416515[/snapback]
have you added nicotine to a topical before? If so, did you order pure nicotine?

No, never added it before. Spook recommended applying Nicoderm patches to the area you rubbed the Spooky LU onto. I believe some people here have extracted nicotine from the lozenges.
Sir Savage
It actually only takes a few minutes to absorb. It's pretty quick.

I think you should probably wait a while before getting wet, so it may be best to apply it after you workout and shower.

The cap, clen, and nicotine stuff I'm not sure about yet. You probably can, and I expect after it comes out we'll see those kinds of experiments from people.
Par Deus
QUOTE(Kimbo @ Aug 6 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]416507[/snapback]
Not that I have any of this yet, but I was wondering about a few things:

- How long does it take to absorb?
- Would it be of more benefit if you were to wait for it to absorb and then lift or do cardio vs. applying it afterwards?
- Can you add capsaicin and nicotine to it ala Spookderm? The capsaicin seems like it may be redundant with the RK's.
- Can you add clen to the formula?


It will be quite similar to Lipo Ultra in regard to all of this type of stuff.
Jay Black
If your pinched for time, is it ok to use alcohol wipe to clean the area of application (this wouldn't be daily, just every once in a while)?
Stay Puft
QUOTE(Jeff @ Aug 28 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]420158[/snapback]
If your pinched for time, is it ok to use alcohol wipe to clean the area of application (this wouldn't be daily, just every once in a while)?



Yes. I've advocated the use of a warm face cloth/towel to thoroughly scrub the area of application, and have done it with success many times over.
B5150
Any status on when this will hit retailers?
Stay Puft
QUOTE(b5150 @ Aug 31 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]420731[/snapback]
Any status on when this will hit retailers?



Barring necessary adjustments to the formula, or any major overhauls it shouldn't take us much longer than 3-4 weeks following the beta testing period.
dvsness
So what's the deal? I'm running out of time... should I just order L-U?
Kimbo
QUOTE(dvsness @ Oct 3 2007, 08:02 AM) [snapback]426629[/snapback]
So what's the deal? I'm running out of time... should I just order L-U?

Probably.
Sir Savage
Oct. 4- labels will be finished according to our label manufacturer.

Next week- product launch.
Colin
So Napalm will be in the Avant store and/or other retail outlets within a week?
Sir Savage
Yep.
GeorgeHavener
So how come the logs didn't come out so swell? I looked at the ingredient list, and it's sold this time around Avant.... I've seen rasberry ketones and licorice do wonders in topicals... You going to have more testers? The ones you had didn't have that good of results.
Sir Savage
What in God's name are you talking about?

They all tried it only for about 2-3 weeks and every single tester except one (we did 30 or so) loved it.
GeorgeHavener
Savage, sorry if I came off like I was badmouthing the product, maybe I was, but not purposely.. From what I read of the logs in this forum it was alot of "I would have got better results had I done this, but I was pleased"... Pretty much they all screwed up or didn't get that good of results.

I obviously missed a shit ton of testers, I just saw the ones on here, sorry.

And they only did 2-3 weeks? There's a good reason....
Sir Savage
Soon I'm going to post an "Introduction to Napalm" thread, where we'll have a formal introduction to the product ('cause we've never really had one). In there will be all the logs across the various boards and you can see what I'm talking about.

Now it's not a miracle supplement, but the stuff definitely works and 99% of the testers were very happy. 1-2 inches, which is where the average girth loss on the waist would be for all the testers combined, is awesome in a couple week period.

So I think all things considered (time constraint, mostly) the results were pretty impressive, ya' know?
Stay Puft
I was a little disappointed with some of the testers from AM who seemed to take the testing too lightly. A lot of "my diet was shit" or "training has been lax lately", but even in light of that they claimed to get some results. So, some good came of it, but the whole product testing approach has been overdone in this industry, to a point where people want a free product and fail to live up to their promises. I am guilty of that myself, so..... I'm a jerk too.
Bachovas
Fucking asshole.
Jay Black
Not sure what the hell GH is talking about...I ate over my caloric maintainence, added about 4 lb. or so, AND leaned the gut out while on this. I don't know about the other testers. But I'm not using any excuses WRT my diet or whatever, I eat how I eat, whatever, and the results were nothing less than awesome.
ozzman
Four full weeks. diet and exercise in check
rpen22
QUOTE(Stay Puft @ Oct 23 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]430981[/snapback]
I was a little disappointed with some of the testers from AM who seemed to take the testing too lightly. A lot of "my diet was shit" or "training has been lax lately", but even in light of that they claimed to get some results. So, some good came of it, but the whole product testing approach has been overdone in this industry, to a point where people want a free product and fail to live up to their promises.


Yeah, I noticed a few of the logs there weren't taken too seriously, but there were some good ones. I'm still just waiting to start cutting later on so I can test it for myself.
Little Rambo
QUOTE(rpen22 @ Oct 24 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]431081[/snapback]
Yeah, I noticed a few of the logs there weren't taken too seriously, but there were some good ones. I'm still just waiting to start cutting later on so I can test it for myself.


From what I've read up on Naplam it seems to be at the top of its class when it comes to topical fat loss products, you could try the bodybuilding.com forums also for some other opinions and reviews smile.gif
Jon
Anyone add Clen yet?
If say someone had 60ml at 100mcg/ml liquid solution. How much clen to add? 30ml or 60ml. I'd be worred about affecting the transdermal by adding too much liquid.

Colin
The clen solution is alcohol based so that isn't an issue with Napalm's carrier,only problem would be adding TOO much liquid which woukld make the solution runny and not so quick to dry eg absorb into the skin.

5000 micrograms is the optimal amount but you needn't add that much to see a signifigant spike in fat oxidation,IME.If your clen solution is 200 mcg's (micrograms) per 1mL start at 15mL's,assuming you have used 1 application (the bottle isn't completely full) in order to make additional room for the liquid as it must be shaken thoroughly before use.

I've used 20mL's of 100mcg per 1 mL of clen with a nearly full bottle of Lipoderm ULTRA (a while back) with more signifigant results that LU stand alone,by far.

Napalm with 20mL's of 100mcg's clen will certainly produce more localized fat loss and that is what I'm using ATM.I would have used a higher amount of clen per mL but I have a bottle of 100mcg's per mL liquid and I can't stand the stuff orally so I'm using this up on my hamster for now.

My next Napalm/clen experiment will involve the same hamster and upwards of 5000mcg's of clen via a 200mcg per mL bottle of clen biggrin.gif
Marc McDougal
QUOTE(Jon @ Jan 14 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]448595[/snapback]
Anyone add Clen yet?
If say someone had 60ml at 100mcg/ml liquid solution. How much clen to add? 30ml or 60ml. I'd be worred about affecting the transdermal by adding too much liquid.



Jen Heath is running a Napalm+Clen log in the Inner Circle right now.
Rodzilla
QUOTE(Marc McDougal @ Jan 14 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]448753[/snapback]
Jen Heath is running a Napalm+Clen log in the Inner Circle right now.

she just posted pictures and I'm falling in love wub.gif
Jon
For those that are adding clen, are you doing a 2 weeks on the enhanced Napalm and 2 weeks regular napalm? Is it needed? Why could one not hypothetically use an antihistamine i.e. benadryl, which has been recommended with oral use of clen?
Colin
QUOTE(Jon @ Jan 17 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]449521[/snapback]
For those that are adding clen, are you doing a 2 weeks on the enhanced Napalm and 2 weeks regular napalm? Is it needed? Why could one not hypothetically use an antihistamine i.e. benadryl, which has been recommended with oral use of clen?


Most are doing 1 week of clen enhanced Napalm alternated with 1 week regular of Napalm.

You may be able to prolong Napalm/clen cycles with an anti-histamine but the trade off (antihistamines are horrible for the FED state) is too high,IMO.
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