This was discovered on recommendation from jeff and sterling100.

Copied from my post in my other thread:

Sorry D Sade, should have PMed me.

Okay, first off, it works, BUT, the dosing is tricky. Take it from me, this is as great as it gets.
First off take some caffeine.. An energy drink or starbucks coffee seems to work better than a caffeine pill for me, but that's probably just coincidence.

Take Three caps
Fifteen minutes later, take two more caps
Fifteen minutes later, take two more caps.

In about ten minutes your good for fourty five minutes.

This works better than taking a alot at once, which I have tried.
Cowboy Techno from the Hackers soundtrack in your car at 8 P.M. also helps.
D Sade, if may, I'd recommend that you up the dosing of the Hordenine in the caps and the PEA. The hordenine isn't enough to cause inhibition right off the bat unless you dose it like this.
Even bettter would be if you were to sell the hordenine sepertate. Like, give us fifty PEA pills in the bag and 50 Hordenine pills in a seperate baggy and sell it for the same price. Same amount of actives, you just split them, and we can dose the hordenine thirty minutes prior to our hefty PEA dose.

I volunteer to test this, of course. Or, better yet, I'd be willing to buy another bag if you can split them as either seperate bags of powder or seperate bags of pills.

Thanks.

Excellent work George. Keep it up. I'll try it tomorrow.

Sweet. I'd request a brief "trip report"?

edit: well just how did you feel

I felt like there is no longer a need for 10 a pill rolls on the market

So would you recommend this for an upcoming trip to Las Vegas?

Couldn't have made it more appealing. I ran a little test yesterday with weed and ~250mg bulk PEA from nutraplanet. Smoked the highest quality weed, took PEA 30 minutes later, then smoked again 15 minutes after. There was an unmistakably strong high for an hour and a half which was shared by the other guy with me. Like DSade mentioned there was well being for another couple hours. This was very strong weed, and seemed to inhibit mao-b well enough.

I find that nicotine makes this shit KICK. I chain smoke and feel amazing. Caffeine before hand is a must, dont know why but it is. Stacking doses sounds like fun, and I would emphasize that an empty stomach is a big help.

I dont think this would be much fun in Vegas, its over before it starts. PS, is there a M&M Vegas trip forming?

Speaking from plenty of expereince with deprenyl/pea...

200mg caffeine beforehand is something I've found to be a great idea as well.

Wine always helps it really work for me, I take the dep with 200mg caffeine, wait 20min, take a dose of PEA, then start sipping on a good pinot noir. Keep drinking the whole time, and its a softer landing.

60% ot the time, it works everryyyy time...

Great feedback from everyone...this is where this board shines. Definitely looking at bringing in the Hordenine as a standalone...IIRC, it is not horrible tasting.

I finally had the opportunity to give these a go over the past weekend. Using George's dosing protocol, I noticed a small body buzz and increased feeling of wellbeing for < 1 hour, followed by a crash where I felt irritable and tired. Maybe I was expecting more, but I'm not a fan.

Did you add caffeine? I like drinking a few energy drinks spread out with it is best.

its that feeling of lethargy, following the high, which deters me from doing it anymore I agree, however, that hordenine definitely has an NE component to it. Stacks very well with deprenyl and caffeine.

new to this forum. d sade, you guys are great. been messing around with the PEA caps for a couple weeks, very affective on me! i take about 5mg dep a day. if your not feeling the caps so well, try takeing a few sublingual, half a cap at a time. stings a little but just man up to the pain. one problem,i've been getting bad neck tension headaches lately. has the PEA/Hor done this to anybody else? I take alot of other stuff too, but it seems to follow the PEA. i take choline with alcar and piracetem, keep the Sub low under 200mg with olive oil-tastes alot better like that. i took Pea heavy like 8-10 caps a day for a few days then cut back. now just a few now and then but i think they giving me the tension headaches. anybody have comments or help?