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envythahustla
Right now on the BSL website we are offering a two-pack Ultra Peptide 2.0 (any flavor) and Relentless (new version) for $34.95. This sale won't last long so I wanted to share the details with the regulars on the Mind and Muscle boards.

Here is the details for the new version of Relentless
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 75g (2 scoops)
Servings Per Container: 12

Calories: 289
Calories From Fat: 13
Total Fat: 1.5g / 2%
Saturated Fat: 1g / 1%
Trans Fat: 0g / 0%
Cholesterol: 35mg / 12%
Total Carbohydrates 42g / 14%
Dietary Fiber: 3g
Sugars: 20g
Protein: 27g
Sodium: 80mg
Calcium: 80mg

Ingredients:
Anabolic hypertrophic / myotropic protein blend: (low molecular weight hydrolyzed whey protein, micellar casein, l-leucine, l-glutamine l-valine, l-isoleucine), anabolic hypertrophic / myotropic carbohydrate blend: dextrose, maltodextrin, waxy maize, rice oligodextrin, inulin, coacoa powder (processed with alkali), natural and artificial flavors, sucralose

https://www.blackstarlabs.com/blackstarlabs...products_id=418

Mods, if this post isn't allowed I do apologize. smile.gif
bearmeat
Sick deal. I know you said "this sale won't last long." Is this determined by your supply or is there a set end date b/c I don't think I will be able order until the middle of the month sad.gif
envythahustla
The end date for the sale is going to be based off sales. We don't have a set end date right now.
Section 8
Wow. I was just looking at my stash of UP 2.0, thinking, "damn, down to my last four jugs..." I've also just ran out of the Vendetta that I use to complement my Synthesize. How frustrating... now I may have to splurge on another 12 pack of UP2 AND hook up this deal. I'm never going to hear the end of this once everything arrives. Oh, bother.
envythahustla
LOL, I could imagine your UP 2.0 fortress with all those tubs you have. smile.gif We don't have Vendetta in stock on the BSL website, so if you do want that then you would have to check with another e-tailer. Sorry about that.
_matt_
Is there any way/place to get additional information pertaining to the specific amounts of the ingredients listed on the labels of each product? I figured this may be something you guys keep under wraps but also figured it wouldn't hurt to ask...
envythahustla
Ask away and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
asianbabe
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 3 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]445730[/snapback]
Ask away and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.

can you kindly ask customizer if he is willing to ship to aus, coz I'd love to get some..!
_matt_
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 3 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]445730[/snapback]
Ask away and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.


I was just wondering the ratio of micellar casein to whey and how much leucine was in the new relentless. And for the UP 2.0, I was also wondering the ratio of casein to whey, and also the amount of creatine monohydrate you've got in there. Thanks!
Gdawg
Off topic: Do you guys have any plans of remaking Go or anything similar in the near future? Or do you know if there is any left that Dave could sale by chance?
Customizer
Ask and you shall receive




https://www.blackstarlabs.com/blackstarlabs...products_id=419



envythahustla
QUOTE(asianbabe @ Jan 3 2008, 07:02 AM) [snapback]445737[/snapback]
can you kindly ask customizer if he is willing to ship to aus, coz I'd love to get some..!


Seems like the sheer cost of shipping to Australia plus the fact that customs would seize it would prevent us from sending out that way. Sorry AB!


QUOTE(_matt_ @ Jan 3 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]445774[/snapback]
I was just wondering the ratio of micellar casein to whey and how much leucine was in the new relentless. And for the UP 2.0, I was also wondering the ratio of casein to whey, and also the amount of creatine monohydrate you've got in there. Thanks!


I need to check on that info regarding the new Relentless for you. With UP 2.0 the ratio is 51% micellar to 49% WPI and roughly 1 gram of creatine monohydrate is in the formula.

QUOTE(Gdawg @ Jan 3 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]445782[/snapback]
Off topic: Do you guys have any plans of remaking Go or anything similar in the near future? Or do you know if there is any left that Dave could sale by chance?


I'd have to check and see. I'll get back to you when I find out an answer.
envythahustla
QUOTE(_matt_ @ Jan 3 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]445774[/snapback]
I was just wondering the ratio of micellar casein to whey and how much leucine was in the new relentless. And for the UP 2.0, I was also wondering the ratio of casein to whey, and also the amount of creatine monohydrate you've got in there. Thanks!


This answer is straight from Dave. 40/60 BCAA total is about 5g if I remember right. He would have to dig up the info if you want to know the exact amount of leucine.


QUOTE(Gdawg @ Jan 3 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]445782[/snapback]
Off topic: Do you guys have any plans of remaking Go or anything similar in the near future? Or do you know if there is any left that Dave could sale by chance?


not anytime soon but yes. i have some grape left. I figure if you make an order you can ask for Grape GO in the comments section or just e-mail him if you want to order.

QUOTE(Customizer @ Jan 3 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]445786[/snapback]


Sweet, I didn't know you had that available.
_matt_
Thanks my man, that's all I wanted to know I'll be getting in on this for sure.
envythahustla
QUOTE(_matt_ @ Jan 3 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]445892[/snapback]
Thanks my man, that's all I wanted to know I'll be getting in on this for sure.


Sounds good DobzyEmoticon.gif
Section 8
Quick question: prices aside, why does your website suck so hard? I may be retarded, but I can't find ingredient panels ANYWHERE... E.g., WTF is Cytofuse? Who knows -- but it's farking advanced, bro!!!1 Color me annoyed.
envythahustla
QUOTE(Section 8 @ Jan 4 2008, 12:45 AM) [snapback]445946[/snapback]
Quick question: prices aside, why does your website suck so hard? I may be retarded, but I can't find ingredient panels ANYWHERE... E.g., WTF is Cytofuse? Who knows -- but it's farking advanced, bro!!!1 Color me annoyed.


Meh, I dunno. Here is the info on Cytofuse

908 Grams
Supplement Facts
Serving Size75Grams(2scoops)
Servings Per Container12

Amount Per Serving

Calories 297
Calories From Fat 5
Total Fat 5
Saturated Fat 0.5g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 125mg
Potassium 125mg
Total Carbohydrate 52g
Sugars 20g
Dietary Fiber 0g
Protein 21g

Other Ingredients
Pure Undenatured Ceramic Microfiltered Low Temperature Processed Whey Protein Isolate, Glucose Polymers, Maltodextrin, Dextrose Monohydrate, Natural And Artificial Flavor, Natural And Artificial Color, Acesulfame Potassium, Soy Lecithin, Sucralose

Section 8
The new Relentless beats Cytofuse, so bollocks to them and their annoying website. In any event, kick ass -- that's another 24 lbs of protein for S8 biggrin.gif

Relentless looks like it will be good for UD2.0 refeeds, which UP2.0 is not. This makes me happy.
envythahustla
QUOTE(Section 8 @ Jan 4 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]445952[/snapback]
The new Relentless beats Cytofuse, so bollocks to them and their annoying website. In any event, kick ass -- that's another 24 lbs of protein for S8 biggrin.gif

Relentless looks like it will be good for UD2.0 refeeds, which UP2.0 is not. This makes me happy.


Glad to make you happy smile.gif
TheUnlikelyToad
QUOTE(Section 8 @ Jan 4 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]445952[/snapback]
The new Relentless beats Cytofuse


Cytofuse is geared towards NCAA athletes as it meets their current supplement guidelines.
Section 8
QUOTE(TheUnlikelyToad @ Jan 4 2008, 05:41 AM) [snapback]445991[/snapback]
Cytofuse is geared towards NCAA athletes as it meets their current supplement guidelines.


What are those, out of curiosity? The "collegiate" Muscle Milk is basically MM plus a shit load of sugar. Cytofuse looks like Relentless, but with a poorer protein to carb ratio, and less goodies. What am I missing? (If the answer is "NCAA stupidity," then I'm not missing anything.)

I also bought a Live Strong wrist band, even though I think wrist bands are ghey smile.gif
envythahustla
QUOTE(Section 8 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]446162[/snapback]
What are those, out of curiosity? The "collegiate" Muscle Milk is basically MM plus a shit load of sugar. Cytofuse looks like Relentless, but with a poorer protein to carb ratio, and less goodies. What am I missing? (If the answer is "NCAA stupidity," then I'm not missing anything.)

I also bought a Live Strong wrist band, even though I think wrist bands are ghey smile.gif


I believe those products cannot contain more than 30% of the total calories of the product from protein. Cytofuse is a pretty good option if you can tolerate maltodextrin and dextrose.
TheUnlikelyToad
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 4 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]446178[/snapback]
I believe those products cannot contain more than 30% of the total calories of the product from protein. Cytofuse is a pretty good option if you can tolerate maltodextrin and dextrose.


Yes, plus WPH would also drive up price quite a bit.
Customizer
cytofuse is sold to NCAA programs who supply it to the athletes. Its on the BSL site so the athletes can purchase it on their own if they want. The restrictions for a product which the school can supply are no more than 30% of the calories from protein, no free form aminos and obviously no banned substances. Its a simple yet effective product for their programs based on what's allowed, not necessarily a product for the hardcore bodybuilder.
Gdawg
QUOTE(Customizer @ Jan 5 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]446363[/snapback]
cytofuse is sold to NCAA programs who supply it to the athletes. Its on the BSL site so the athletes can purchase it on their own if they want. The restrictions for a product which the school can supply are no more than 30% of the calories from protein, no free form aminos and obviously no banned substances. Its a simple yet effective product for their programs based on what's allowed, not necessarily a product for the hardcore bodybuilder.

Out of sheer curiosity, if you don't mind...how have Cytofuse sales been b/c of all the stipulations it must meet? Better/worse than "regular" MRPs?
Customizer
QUOTE(Gdawg @ Jan 6 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]446515[/snapback]
Out of sheer curiosity, if you don't mind...how have Cytofuse sales been b/c of all the stipulations it must meet? Better/worse than "regular" MRPs?

im not sure if I follow your question. Universities purchase a good amount of it because it's a clean / simple / good tasting and effective formula for their needs which also absolutely qualifies as NCAA compliant. We win on taste 100% of the time versus the other formulas in this category which is a big deal when strength coaches have to disperse this stuff to an entire team, and IMO we have a better formula to boot.
Gdawg
QUOTE(Customizer @ Jan 7 2008, 01:35 AM) [snapback]446611[/snapback]
im not sure if I follow your question. Universities purchase a good amount of it because it's a clean / simple / good tasting and effective formula for their needs which also absolutely qualifies as NCAA compliant. We win on taste 100% of the time versus the other formulas in this category which is a big deal when strength coaches have to disperse this stuff to an entire team, and IMO we have a better formula to boot.

Gotcha. So the bulk of your sales are to the actual team/coaches in large quantities instead of individual consumers.
Customizer
QUOTE(Gdawg @ Jan 7 2008, 07:08 AM) [snapback]446634[/snapback]
Gotcha. So the bulk of your sales are to the actual team/coaches in large quantities instead of individual consumers.

right exactly
envythahustla
For those people in the NP forum that requested Liquid Chalk....it is now available on the BSL website.

https://www.blackstarlabs.com/blackstarlabs...products_id=420
riseboi
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 11 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]448026[/snapback]
For those people in the NP forum that requested Liquid Chalk....it is now available on the BSL website.

https://www.blackstarlabs.com/blackstarlabs...products_id=420



LOL at the product description,

"...your best option when you train at a gym owned by a granola eating fruitcake who doesn't understand your need to GFH."
envythahustla
QUOTE(riseboi @ Jan 11 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]448032[/snapback]
LOL at the product description,

"...your best option when you train at a gym owned by a granola eating fruitcake who doesn't understand your need to GFH."


Dave has no sense at all. biggrin.gif
Atlas
Is BSL flavoring ever going to be back on the website? If not, where can I find it? TP Premium flavoring just isn't doing it for me...
envythahustla
QUOTE(Atlas @ Jan 11 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]448036[/snapback]
Is BSL flavoring ever going to be back on the website? If not, where can I find it? TP Premium flavoring just isn't doing it for me...


At this time we aren't producing BSL flavor packs. I'm not sure what the future holds, but we would need to have a huge demand (like from a company similar to TP.com or something) to produce the flavoring.
asianbabe
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 11 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]448037[/snapback]
At this time we aren't producing BSL flavor packs. I'm not sure what the future holds, but we would need to have a huge demand (like from a company similar to TP.com or something) to produce the flavoring.

I heard a rumour cnw was going to carry it, guess not?
envythahustla
QUOTE(asianbabe @ Jan 12 2008, 01:42 AM) [snapback]448188[/snapback]
I heard a rumour cnw was going to carry it, guess not?


I can double check and get back to you on that.
Rodzilla
double check faster Envy! Dave is on right neow!
envythahustla
QUOTE(Rodzilla @ Jan 12 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]448286[/snapback]
double check faster Envy! Dave is on right neow!


LOL, even if he is on it is still hard to catch him. smile.gif
Atlas
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 11 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]448037[/snapback]
At this time we aren't producing BSL flavor packs. I'm not sure what the future holds, but we would need to have a huge demand (like from a company similar to TP.com or something) to produce the flavoring.


Baaaaaah wizards!

That sucks to hear, hopefully Dave will have some good news...
envythahustla
QUOTE(Atlas @ Jan 12 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]448315[/snapback]
Baaaaaah wizards!

That sucks to hear, hopefully Dave will have some good news...


I'll report back Monday or he will come in and give some info. smile.gif
Atlas
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 12 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]448327[/snapback]
I'll report back Monday or he will come in and give some info. smile.gif


Cool...thanks a lot!
envythahustla
QUOTE(Atlas @ Jan 13 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]448337[/snapback]
Cool...thanks a lot!


Doesn't seem like anyone is going to carry these flavors soon. Apparently CNW asked for pricing but nothing has happened after that.
Atlas
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 15 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]448761[/snapback]
Doesn't seem like anyone is going to carry these flavors soon. Apparently CNW asked for pricing but nothing has happened after that.


ahhh, alright.

Thanks for asking!
rpen22
Is the 12 pack of UP1.0 not available anymore?
Rodzilla
QUOTE(rpen22 @ Jan 15 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]448777[/snapback]
Is the 12 pack of UP1.0 not available anymore?

its still there Ryan. Look under "big hugeness"
rpen22
QUOTE(Rodzilla @ Jan 15 2008, 06:17 AM) [snapback]448795[/snapback]
its still there Ryan. Look under "big hugeness"


Yeah, but I tried buying it and it said this at the bottom: "Products marked with *** dont exist in desired quantity in our stock.
Please alter the quantity of products marked with (***), Thank you".

I just didn't know if that meant it was out of stock, or if that deal's not available anymore but it lets me put 12 individual UP1.0s in my cart without the message.
Rodzilla
QUOTE(rpen22 @ Jan 15 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]448813[/snapback]
Yeah, but I tried buying it and it said this at the bottom: "Products marked with *** dont exist in desired quantity in our stock.
Please alter the quantity of products marked with (***), Thank you".

I just didn't know if that meant it was out of stock, or if that deal's not available anymore but it lets me put 12 individual UP1.0s in my cart without the message.

thats weird


ENVY!! monkhissyfit.gif
envythahustla
QUOTE(rpen22 @ Jan 15 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]448777[/snapback]
Is the 12 pack of UP1.0 not available anymore?


We may be low on stock for 1.0. I'll double check that and get back to ya.
rpen22
QUOTE(envythahustla @ Jan 15 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]448824[/snapback]
We may be low on stock for 1.0. I'll double check that and get back to ya.


Thanks.
envythahustla
QUOTE(rpen22 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]448830[/snapback]
Thanks.


Issue is resolved. You can order either flavor or mix and match. smile.gif
envythahustla
QUOTE(Atlas @ Jan 15 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]448776[/snapback]
ahhh, alright.

Thanks for asking!


You are more than welcome.
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