As a sponsor of M&M I’d like to announce the release of our latest product – Toco-8.

Toco-8 is a powdered tocotrienol complex extracted from Palm Fruits (elaies guineensis) and has recently been patented for its effect on improving hair count by an average of 42% in men and women suffering from alopecia. Please see a quote directly from the human study –

"At the end of the supplementation period, all volunteers in the tocotrienol formulation group had positive results, recording an increase in the number of hairs in the evaluation area. Seven volunteers (64%) showed regrowth of between 10-35% while 3 volunteers (27%) had 50% or greater regrowth. One volunteer had regrowth of more than 100%. The mean percentage of increase in the number of hairs is 42.4.+-.40.9% (mean.+-.std dev.)."

To read the full patent, please visit here -
http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF_AAAAEBAJ&dq=7211274

To learn more about Toco-8 visit us here –Toco-8

Thank you.

-Pp

Very nice. Have to give this a try.

Very nice. Pp, is this similar to minox in it that once the user discontinues use you will more than likely lose the new hair?

I don't see any reason to stop using it if it's working.

very interesting (as are your other products tha I saw now that I went to your website).

do you sell through any websites or just your own?

They sell to other sites as well.

Excellent point. My hair must be falling out from stupidity.

Well if you're losing hair why take something that helps it grow then stop taking it? That makes no sense.

I can recommend a nootropic for that.

lol.. got that from the auto S - D

Its standard deviation.

-Pp

Is it safe to take with finasteride?

Should be.

I’m not a fan of finasteride, but I don’t think Toco-8 would contribute to any additional side effects as I don’t believe the action of the tocotrienols has anything to do with DHT.

-Pp

Now thats a smart answer.

I'm looking forward to giving Toco-8 a soht for a few months as neither fin or dut worked for my MPB.I should note that I used topical spiro,15% Xandrox and other topicals/shampoos with the fin and dut runs,both of which I used for a year w/no result.

I won't be using any androgens in the future or variables other than (the possibility of) 20mg var for long term joint recuperation and 25mg clomid for upper end of normal T elevation.These hardly account for variables though,just posting up anything related to hormonal manipulation that I may be using.

If the Toco-8 works with the aforementioned topicals,which I'll be using to hedge my bets,this would be cash-money.

I will take several well lighted pics of my entire scalp before I start and a couple months into it,results will be posted.

FWIW,I'll be buying the product myself and I'm not associated with PP in any way.

This product sounds like it would induce significant hunger.

Fuck.

What makes you you think appetite would be flared up?

For the same reason that it would flare up if they had named it "double cheeseburger-8."

Gotcha,I'll do the leg work.

LOL, no legwork necessary, home slice. The first thing I thought when I saw the title of the thread was, "damn, I could really go for some tacos right now..."

Pubmed has 147 studies available on toco,none of which had hits mixed with hyperphagy or anorectic.

I'm guessing that Section8 was refering to the comment posted below,grifted from the link.



"This invention also relates to the use of tocotrienols, tocotrienol-like compounds, and mixtures thereof, as hypocholesterolemic, antithrombotic, antioxidizing, antiatherogenic, antiinflammatory and immunoregulatory agents, or as agents useful to decrease lipoprotein (a) concentration in the blood or to increase feed conversion efficiency."

"Increase food conversion efficiency" certainly doesn't look good.

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5591772

I saw your last post after...haha...completely missing the intent of both previous posts and looking around a bit.

But it looks like it might spike appetite via that one qouted remark in my last post.

OTOH,that statement can be read as it increases nutrient partitioning (like ALA for ex.) or......I may be over reaching with some paranod shit here but all the same....that could mean that meals are digested quicker and this leads to appetite increase.

Fuck this,I need a beer.

You guys are funny...

You say your taking some close head pics for us Colin? (before and after shots)

-Pp

Yes.

Guys, we just got Toco-8 back instock. ;-)

-Pp

Colin, how do you like the taste of the Toco?

-Eric

how did this stuff end up working.

Or, you could just Google the term and stop being retarded and speculative.

Its something you have to take long-term to really reap the benefits. The hair loss study was 5 months long, so it would take a little while to really notice an effect.

-Pp

well did any one actually notice really good results after long term use?

also how much of an affect can one expect on lh and testosterone?

The hair regrowth benefits where pretty significant from the 5 month study. From customers, so far we’ve heard of people noticing less fallout in the shower, and even a couple reports of new baby hairs coming through. (from only a couple months of use)

I wouldn’t say Toco-8 is a big T booster by itself. If your doing all the right things to maintain high testosterone levels (ie active lifestyle, sufficient sleep, ect) then Toco-8 would allow you to function more optimally. It also works best when combined with other T boosting products too.

For instance, Toco won’t increase your circulating LH levels much, but it significantly increases your pituitary concentration of LH, so when your body does release LH, it is available in sufficient a qty… just another piece to the puzzle.

-Pp

how could i natural increase my testosterone enough to really feel a difference, with a regimine that i could afford to keep up forever. thanks

I think you would notice the boost from Sustain Alpha stacked with Toco-8, and perhaps EndoAmp if your budget allows. All these products are safe for long term use.

I personaly like to use the Sustain for 2-3 weeks with about a week break between each cycle.

-Pp

study is fake and product wont work

I can send you the full text if you like.

-Pp

I'll take a full bottle thanks

there are thousands of companies that have proven studies considering hairloss.. I'm in the hairloss-game since many many years and I've been around forums worldwide...from my experience I can tell that toco-8 must be another snake oil. sorry.

and considering studies: did you know that another study found out that about 50% of all studies are either sponsored / made-up?

Ha you must be bald.

Did you know all drug studies are guess what done by drug companies?
If it works it works people can review the research, company, and the product and decide for themselves.

there are independent scientists who do studies too btw..
but yeah you can all decide by your own. I for myself am just 100% certain that this has to be a snake oil, the "study" is just ridiculous

you should back up your claims with more then rhetoric.

Rarely. Nearly all studies done to get FDA approval are company sponsored. By your logic most FDA approved drugs are snake oil.

The manufacturer who funded the study is quite reputable. I’m curious though, where did you get the idea that Carotech creates fake and made up studies?

And since when did tocotrienols become snake oil? There have been numerous independent studies done on this ingredient showing significant health benefits.

-Pp

whatever have fun growing hair with it lmao

Do you have any research suggesting otherwise?

would it be good for the sking to a noticable degree. How much is a bottle and how long does it last.

The Toco-8 is $29 and it lasts 30 days at the clinically effective hair loss dose.

Is Toco good for the skin? Yes, actually I can remember doing some reading on Tocotrienols being built into some high end cosmetics for its anti-oxidant properties.

-Pp

Anyword on this yet, Colin, or anyone else?

Interesting

are these only effective orally?

There may be some benefits to using Tocotrienols topically, but the hair loss study was with oral supplementation.

-Pp

i might try this out for 2 months when i get some cash in hand.

is two months enough to notice a real differance?