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Mitosis
Well....its official.

I have trashed my physiue.(sp?)

Anyway, here is how I got here.


Was at 6 percent ready for a show...or damn close I guess. Loaded on GH,IGF1,TEST,ETC.

Bodyweight was about 174 or so.

I was told by several vets and a judge that I should win..and seeing the other novices I agreed.

I could not do the show due to job commitments.

I got kinda apathetic.....that was in July.

Since then....I have let my body go to shit....

I have tried and failed numerous times to do keto, carb cycling and PSMF.I have been cruising on low dose gear, which I think has helped maintain my mass...and keep some bodyfat off. Currently I am....

206 pounds...

Bodyfat about 15-16.....

I know I know...

I kept thinking last night...how did I get here? And how did I get to the best shape of my life?

Well I stopped UD 2 to get here at this shit point.

I started UD 2 to get into the best shape. The stability of UD 2 is something my anal rententive personality needs....I crave the discipline. I am an all or nothing kinda guy....hence my failure with flexible plans.

I got back on UD 2.0 a few months ago and started getting back into shape, but got right back within a few weeks....again..the apathy kicked in. I just didnt care...

I no longer have the "hunger" that drive.....I had recently been divorced and I kinda focused all energy onto "showing her"...etc.etc. Not really healthy mentally....but it gave me the drive. Now the last few months...

I have had girl...after girl....after girl...and kinda came to the mindset I get approached by them more when I am..."less hot". If that makes sense. I never got approached by women when I was in shape....maybe they didnt like it...maybe intimidated....either way...

I liked the new attention..and I liked being lazy, working out 1- times per wekk and for all purposes being...

Average.

But I didnt like it....I dont....and I have decided to rebuild what I had...better then before. I thinks starting this log may help. I think I deeply crave the discipline...the misery...but I have made such a habit of "eh" and at some points....just plain gluttony.

I will be using gear....just low doses androgens....My HPTA is shot...and until I get back into shape I am not going to bother having more issues ....one at a time.

Along with UD 2 and some fat burners etc.

Anyway, did half my depletion this morning.

6 chest 15-20
6 Lats 15-20
4 lat raises 15-20
3 tris 15-20
3 bis 15-20

10 minutes of treadmill cardio low intensity on a slight incline.

Tonight will be....

All 15-20 of course

6 sets leg press
6 leg curl
6 calf
6 abs

Cardio-10-20 min. low inten.

Tomorrow I shall repeat this.

KCAL will be low....as the gear aids me....

I will shoot for 800-1000...mostly from tuna,chicken and maybe eggs.

Sesamin,fishoil,dialene, clen,t4, assorted oral...and of course....test prop/tren ac/mast prop....ED.

I think 1-1.5 percent bodyfat percent per week could be dropped with this....

I am not doing the 14 day plan....I need the 7 day plan and the reward cycle...at least for now.

I am at a low.....kinda sucks...but I have been lower....much lower ...

And the good news is ....yes the Asian is still around....she may move in with me.Remember shes 20......and btw left her parents and is kinda written off from them now....living with her friends now...so no more curfews...phew!

The other good news is I am seeing a teacher also...22...hot white chick..got the Asian girl beat on looks and shes older and more educated...so I am currently trying to pick....I know...the last thing I need is distractions....but I have to have something besides the gym.

So this blog shall be interesting.....not only socially.....but my transformation....I really need to fix this.....its embarassing for me...and half my clothes dont fit.

Any input be nice all.....I have no one to blame but myself....

And only myself can fix it.
JBarna
Good luck! It sounds like you are ready too make some changes. How many days a week do you do a two work out per day split?
methodice
I enjoyed your previous log and look forward to this one too. Good intro bro.
Mitosis
I will do the two a days just on depletion days....

So two days.

Unless one of my other worjouts gets cut short.


Heres a layout....

Day 1(Today) Depletion weights.....AM/PM

Day 2 -the same

Day 3- AM Cardio

Day 4- AM cardio

Day 5 Tension weights am....carb load/refeed....etc.

Day 6 Power workout AM-just above maint. kcal

Day 7 light cardio/rest- just below maintenance

Start over .....yay.

Thanks for the support....
methodice
Have you ever tried to carb load and then do your tension workout? Has anyone had success doing it this way or vice-versa?
Mitosis
QUOTE(methodice @ Jan 24 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]451272[/snapback]
I enjoyed your previous log and look forward to this one too. Good intro bro.



Thanks bud.

I had to be honest with myself/ It was nice being average and apathetic...but I kinda miss being the anal party pooper that everyone thinks shouldnt be dieting.
Kimbo
Definitely going to keep up with this. I've been in the apathy + tang boat lately myself.

I enjoyed UD2.0. I'd like to get back on it again eventually.
The Bionic Man
WTF happened Mitosis?

You were doing GREAT...physically and personally (as far as I could tell).

A couple of thoughts:
Obviously this shouldn't be that hard for you to do (get back in shape), since you've done it before.
If it was only a month that you "fell off the wagon", I doubt you're in that bad shape.

Anyway, I'm subscribed once again...good luck.
Mitosis
QUOTE(The Bionic Man @ Jan 24 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]451304[/snapback]
WTF happened Mitosis?

You were doing GREAT...physically and personally (as far as I could tell).

A couple of thoughts:
Obviously this shouldn't be that hard for you to do (get back in shape), since you've done it before.
If it was only a month that you "fell off the wagon", I doubt you're in that bad shape.

Anyway, I'm subscribed once again...good luck.



I just got complacent.....and just binged and binged on shit...I mean mega kcal intake I am talking.

Its amazing how fast you can put bodyfat on when you cut out supplements and train minimally...but I shall fix it.....

Back to work haha
Kimbo
Kinda of funny that you mentioned getting more women when your body fat % was higher. It might have been that they were less intimidated, but there are also plenty of women who go for "husky" guys.
Mitosis
QUOTE(Kimbo @ Jan 24 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]451316[/snapback]
Kinda of funny that you mentioned getting more women when your body fat % was higher. It might have been that they were less intimidated, but there are also plenty of women who go for "husky" guys.

Yeahs its amazing.....

And they are all hotter then the ones I got when I was ripped,tan and shaved.....crazy..

I keep hearing....

"I feel so safe with you....those big arms around me and you are just big."

I am like....

"Um...thanks...yeah."

Anyway....yeah it is interesting. I imagine if I was obese it be diff. but being muscular and thicker with bodyfat I guess is kinda like that teddy bear/grizzly bear thing.

One thing I noticed, despite less frequent workout...my strength is up.....bodyfat has its merits. I actually got into a fight with some guy that grabbed the Asians ass...and his three friends.

Really, I didnt get touched...I never realized how strong I was until I threw another human by the back of his coat. They were a couple of 19-22 yr old jackass, drunk and stupid. They actually hit me three times before I decided to "neutralize" them. I laughed when they hit me...perhaps me being tough...most likely test/tren.haha.

I sustained no damage.....they however saw me at a party and got up and ran outta the room. I was like...wow....Ya, science does kick ass! Nerds everywhere rejoiced that night.
Jinx Me
When you get that lean, it's easy as hell to rebound. It's also SO hard to maintain that level of dedication, mentally. Been there, tried that, failed. It can screw up your hormones to the point where rebound is virtually inevitable, no matter how dedicated you've been.

It's okay to fluctuate, but maybe your new goal should be to allow fluctuation, but to shoot for a much less extreme fluctuation (on both ends of the spectrum). Like, low end 9-10%, high end 12% or so.

I used to be a fan of the nearly-starving look (for myself and men), but got over it. A thin layer of bodyfat over a solid base of muscle feels much nicer and looks much healthier.

It's also nice to be able to be the 'healthy' one who can still live a moderately normal life, socially, and enjoy food with others. Binging and starving is a mentally shitty cycle that self-perpetuates. I have personally found that binging and starving have set me up mentally for borderline disorders that have taken a long time to recover from. Balance is more satisfying, more sustainable, healthier, better for getting real training results, and by no means 'average'.

Anyway, good luck with whatever path you take. Train to feel good, have some patience and don't hate on yourself if you're not perfect in a month. It'll take at least six to eight weeks to attain total perfection wink.gif

P.S. wrt wanting to 'show' the ex, remember, God's not letting you into heaven for having the perfect body. It's far from a moral victory. Living well - rather than just looking like a model - that's the best revenge.
Mitosis
QUOTE(Jinx Me @ Jan 24 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]451361[/snapback]
When you get that lean, it's easy as hell to rebound. It's also SO hard to maintain that level of dedication, mentally. Been there, tried that, failed. It can screw up your hormones to the point where rebound is virtually inevitable, no matter how dedicated you've been.

It's okay to fluctuate, but maybe your new goal should be to allow fluctuation, but to shoot for a much less extreme fluctuation (on both ends of the spectrum). Like, low end 9-10%, high end 12% or so.

I used to be a fan of the nearly-starving look (for myself and men), but got over it. A thin layer of bodyfat over a solid base of muscle feels much nicer and looks much healthier.

It's also nice to be able to be the 'healthy' one who can still live a moderately normal life, socially, and enjoy food with others. Binging and starving is a mentally shitty cycle that self-perpetuates. I have personally found that binging and starving have set me up mentally for borderline disorders that have taken a long time to recover from. Balance is more satisfying, more sustainable, healthier, better for getting real training results, and by no means 'average'.

Anyway, good luck with whatever path you take. Train to feel good, have some patience and don't hate on yourself if you're not perfect in a month. It'll take at least six to eight weeks to attain total perfection wink.gif

P.S. wrt wanting to 'show' the ex, remember, God's not letting you into heaven for having the perfect body. It's far from a moral victory. Living well - rather than just looking like a model - that's the best revenge.


Agreed, I learned a lot this year. Some of it the hard way......

And thanks for the support...the patience is going to be tough.....I kinda got use to having that look....and when I see what I am now...its like....WTF Did I do?

But not like that 25 pounds came on over night.......haha.

Time for my PM.....I hate depletion work. Lyle is laughing I know it! rolleyes.gif
Jakeshorts
you sound like me after both of my shows. Rebound is experienced by all to some degree. I gained 25-35 pounds within 3 weeks of both of mine. Take comfort in the fact that you KNOW you can lean down again (especially with all your chemicals) but don't force it.

Forcing motivation is like trying to shit up hill. Even if you squeeze it out it's just gonna roll back in your ass crack. Wait till the time is right. The motivation will come back.

Right now I suggest on exploring other things in your other than lifting and banging brawds. Get a new hobby or revisit an old one. I'm getting back into video games while trying my hand at power lifting. I'm having a blast and enjoying the leaniency I now have in my social life.
Jinx Me
QUOTE(Jakeshorts @ Jan 24 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]451372[/snapback]
you sound like me after both of my shows. Rebound is experienced by all to some degree. I gained 25-35 pounds within 3 weeks of both of mine. Take comfort in the fact that you KNOW you can lean down again (especially with all your chemicals) but don't force it.

Forcing motivation is like trying to shit up hill. Even if you squeeze it out it's just gonna roll back in your ass crack. Wait till the time is right. The motivation will come back.
Right now I suggest on exploring other things in your other than lifting and banging brawds. Get a new hobby or revisit an old one. I'm getting back into video games while trying my hand at power lifting. I'm having a blast and enjoying the leaniency I now have in my social life.


Exactly. It comes in its own time. Usually when you've gotten some mental distance and the hormones have had time to balance out. Of course, getting sick and tired of being fat (in your definition of the word) can also help kickstart things. But sometimes it just leads to frustration, impatience, false starts, feelings of failure and stress. It's totally natural and healthy to go through higher energy and lower energy periods. It seems to me that the harder you push, the more you'll end up eventually having to back off.

Is your goal definitely to get on stage?
lethaljd
QUOTE(Mitosis @ Jan 24 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]451262[/snapback]
I kinda focused all energy onto "showing her"...etc.etc. Not really healthy mentally....but it gave me the drive.


Mitosis: I did the same thing after my big breakup a few years back and I directed all of my energy into getting in to the best shape of my life to "show her." It failed, because that wasn't why we split in the first place! Anyway, I know where you are coming from brother, and while apathy + chicks is fun for awhile, you can be driven, focused, lean and still loving the ladies. I'm sure it wasn't your physique that was keeping them at bay in your shredded state, more likely it was your mindset. I didn't have a girl talk to me for probably a year or two until I moved on mentally from that relationship and got myself out of that rut. You sound like you are well on your way...let the rebirth continue...
Jinx Me
Also, girls like guys who have fun, eat food, spend time with them (rather than 24/7 at the gym or recovering from training), stuff like that. Extreme contest dieting and such is kind of a mood killer.
Jakeshorts
trying to begin dating while contest dieting is a lost cause. You don't have the hormones for a good ending to the evening anyways.
Mitosis
Well survived a day.....

Had a date last night.....went well...I think the teacher and I are going to move to a more serious mode...it has been almost two months and I may just do it.Anyway I had fun...got about 1 hours sleep.....sigh. Though I got some cardio in..... 18_007.gif


I plan on taking a nap about 3-4 for an hour or two and then working out the full depletion in the pm.

My kcal came in at 1050 yesterday. I am very sore from the lack of volume/intensity I have been using previously.

I began to feel a tad motivated yesterday, I listened to some music ....put on a hooded sweat shirt and kept my hood up. I am gonna wear baggy stuff until my results are done....and I even covered up my face on my myspace pic....kinda doing the whole "metamorphosis" thing, you know was a fat larvae, am now a pupae....will hopefully be a mature in not too long.

Anyway, kcal shooting for 1200 or less....depletion in pm same as yesterday. If I find I am too tired, I will just deplete tomorrow instead and then add a day before my tension workout to ensure fat loss/glycogen depletion is maximal.

Thanks for all the support...

And you are right...its easy to get apathetic after such a long hard dieting phase.m And I realized that starvation/binge cycle was not working..I actually stayed the same at about 204 for a few weeks...but that stable weight was obviously not what I wanted....

I am most comfy about 184-187....10-12 percent bodyfat.....I just feel better.
Mitosis
QUOTE(Jinx Me @ Jan 24 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]451381[/snapback]
Exactly. It comes in its own time. Usually when you've gotten some mental distance and the hormones have had time to balance out. Of course, getting sick and tired of being fat (in your definition of the word) can also help kickstart things. But sometimes it just leads to frustration, impatience, false starts, feelings of failure and stress. It's totally natural and healthy to go through higher energy and lower energy periods. It seems to me that the harder you push, the more you'll end up eventually having to back off.

Is your goal definitely to get on stage?


Yes thats my goal....maybe sometime in the end of summer....I got in shape from 16 percent last year in about 4.5 months...so I can do it, and I am bigger now, so more lean mass.....kinda makes it a tad easier..if I can keep it.

Anyway had a long talk with the teacher girl last night....she met me at first when I was super ripped....and didnt dig me.

She told me why....

Basically...she finds me "cuter" with cheeks haha and that I looked cocky before.....she also knew about my dieting and it was a turn off.

Also my affinity for tight shirts and jeans was called..."a tad metro"

Geez.

Wow....hit the nail didnt we all?

Anyway I explain to her that I like her a lot and will be more then willing to compromise on eating out and such, and I meant that. I mean UD 2.0 is doable on carb ups if I stay away from fatty stuff and its not horrible if I keep it low carb is I have a steak once in a while on my low carb days...I find as long as carbs are curbed...I tend to lose bodyfat, even if I have a lil extra protein and fat.

Anyway....thanks all....keep you posted....

I always wanted to do a show....I just have this goal...I got so close....I wont miss it this time.
Mitosis
Okay.....so after a week or so I have come to some conclusions.

1. I am detrained.

2. I am exhausted from a UD 2.0 style.

3. My bodyfat(though lower) is sadly over 15....therefore I can maybe change to a more "liberal diet" and still see results.

4. I have switched after one week of U.D. 2.0 to a CKD. I can "retrain" at a slower pace and pickup U.D. 2.0 hopefully when I hit about 12 percent bodyfat.

5. My career will require some flexibility, Keo/CKD will allow a more flexible approach, esp while traveling.

6. With my regimen of "supplements" I should still drop a good 3 pounds per week or so, keeping kcal at 10-12x bodyweight.

7. Refeed will be a short period of clean carbs, roughly 450 grams after my Friday workout.

8. Split will be one body part per day, I need to train like this again, I miss it and though not optimal I will stick with it.

9. Volume/intensity will be moderate, gradually working on both. Particularly intensity.

10. Moderate cardio 15-20 minutues per day after workout or in AM. Building over time,5 days per week at first.

11. CKD can let me "enjoy" eating out and such(I mean where cant I get a steak or eggs and bacon?) and still manage to stay within my goals.

12. Monday was chest, 12 sets...today was back, 12 sets and 15 minutes cardio.Tomorrow will be legs.

liorrh
QUOTE(Jinx Me @ Jan 24 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]451381[/snapback]
Exactly. It comes in its own time. Usually when you've gotten some mental distance and the hormones have had time to balance out. Of course, getting sick and tired of being fat (in your definition of the word) can also help kickstart things. But sometimes it just leads to frustration, impatience, false starts, feelings of failure and stress. It's totally natural and healthy to go through higher energy and lower energy periods. It seems to me that the harder you push, the more you'll end up eventually having to back off.

Is your goal definitely to get on stage?

I agree with 90% of what you said but this

on the surface yes, motivation is never something you "need", but people crying out for motivation is a sense that they want a better environment and perception of why their life because they are not fulfilled, right now. so when looking for motivation you essentially look for faith, goggles (perception) . both come from environmental priming.

motivation... it might never "come in its time". that's just a story you keep telling to yourself explaining why its ok to waste your life. make it come. its all about environment. change it little by little so the motivation will come weather you like it or not. (PS that's basically my book in a nutshell, but even if I wasn't writing a book... you know the only thing that is OK is what YOU say is OK. and if you think being a fat fuck is not OK or whatever else you think you want the motivation to get out off, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. its your life to fulfill or learn from failing to)
liorrh
PS I do not like UD2.0 for comeback training. look at marc's article in m&m.
Grassroots082
QUOTE(liorrh @ Jan 29 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]452675[/snapback]
PS I do not like UD2.0 for comeback training. look at marc's article in m&m.


I like UD2.0 primarily because it has a specific plan diet wise. I've actually never used it, so I can't comment on its effectiveness but with any training program proper nutrition plays the most important role IMO. Marc's article mentions nothing of diet, and after reading Mitosis previous posts, he has had success with UD2.0 albeit with AAS but still success is success. What are your thoughts on carb cycling/refeeds liorrh?
Jinx Me
QUOTE(liorrh @ Jan 29 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]452674[/snapback]
I agree with 90% of what you said but this

on the surface yes, motivation is never something you "need", but people crying out for motivation is a sense that they want a better environment and perception of why their life because they are not fulfilled, right now. so when looking for motivation you essentially look for faith, goggles (perception) . both come from environmental priming.

motivation... it might never "come in its time". that's just a story you keep telling to yourself explaining why its ok to waste your life. make it come. its all about environment. change it little by little so the motivation will come weather you like it or not. (PS that's basically my book in a nutshell, but even if I wasn't writing a book... you know the only thing that is OK is what YOU say is OK. and if you think being a fat fuck is not OK or whatever else you think you want the motivation to get out off, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. its your life to fulfill or learn from failing to)


Good point. However the reason I wrote what I wrote for Mitosis is that, like many lifters, he holds himself to very exacting standards. He won't like ever accept less than excellence, at least in terms of physique, I can't speak for other things. But perfectionism can be damaging and sometimes can undermine the end goal. Someone like him is always setting things up for success, but it's just a matter of whether beating on yourself for having low energy, or being 10 lbs overweight, is a productive way of achieving your goals. It's one thing to know that's not where you want to be, or stay. It's another to bully yourself when your body is still rebounding from very low bodyfat levels. Unfair, "against all odds" expectations may actually set you up to fail. It's clear though, from the above post about the modifications to the diet/program, that he's making adjustments as needed to move toward the goal, realistically smile.gif
liorrh
carbcycling-refeeds - its good when supervised to the T. otherwise results are hectic. I think that stability for the brain, is very underrated and poorly understood by trainees. starvation/binging cycles are instability to many systems in the body.

I was talking about the training... when you are detrained you can get results with real easy training, many research shows that. why bother with an extreme depletion/failure plan like UD2.0
liorrh
QUOTE(Jinx Me @ Jan 29 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]452693[/snapback]
perfectionism can be damaging


perfectionism is not damaging. its serving its goal. you see, there is a conflict within some people. they stride down a path in life but deep down they don't want that path. so they set perfect goals, to make them fail over and over, to put them in so much pain in order to make them do something else. so perfectionism is setting yourself up to fail, as you said, and if that is someone's goal, let it be. why set himself for success in an area he never wants to succeed in?
Jinx Me
QUOTE(liorrh @ Jan 29 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]452698[/snapback]
perfectionism is not damaging. its serving its goal. you see, there is a conflict within some people. they stride down a path in life but deep down they don't want that path. so they set perfect goals, to make them fail over and over, to put them in so much pain in order to make them do something else. so perfectionism is setting yourself up to fail, as you said, and if that is someone's goal, let it be. why set himself for success in an area he never wants to succeed in?


Rather than failing over and over at something you never wanted, wouldn't it be better to identify your true goals and succeed? Though perhaps this is just hijacking Mitosis's thread.... sorry man.
Mitosis
QUOTE(Jinx Me @ Jan 29 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]452702[/snapback]
Rather than failing over and over at something you never wanted, wouldn't it be better to identify your true goals and succeed? Though perhaps this is just hijacking Mitosis's thread.... sorry man.



No apologies needed.....I am glad we can have this discussion. I think many of us all face "expectations" that we set on ourselves in the "fitness world". This is all very informative, and it is nice to know what others think and what they have experienced.

I know a few things..

1.My previous "odds against me approach failed"

2.I am not happy with my current state

So a mix of both perspectives kinda fits me....you know?

I think like most things, motivation is highly individual and perhaps the best approach lies somewhere in the middle for me.

Bump....and good discussion
Mitosis
QUOTE(liorrh @ Jan 29 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]452695[/snapback]
carbcycling-refeeds - its good when supervised to the T. otherwise results are hectic. I think that stability for the brain, is very underrated and poorly understood by trainees. starvation/binging cycles are instability to many systems in the body.

I was talking about the training... when you are detrained you can get results with real easy training, many research shows that. why bother with an extreme depletion/failure plan like UD2.0



Both very good points...


I read the article again.....been awhile...and yes point well taken bro.

Smarter....

Not harder.
liorrh
QUOTE(Mitosis @ Jan 29 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]452717[/snapback]
I think like most things, motivation is highly individual and perhaps the best approach lies somewhere in the middle for me.

Indeed.

scientific evidence point to the fact that more is similar than different between individuals when it comes to willpower, motivation and fulfillment (i.e making the former two work in a way that makes you happy). There is plenty of "motivation" and "happiness" research in the last 20 years, including (but not limited to) motivation and happiness as they apply to body composition and athletic goals. So in essence one should take in the "rules" and apply them by trial and error to himself, (even this process of self growth is researched).

Mitosis
Wow....three days in a row I trained and ate to my plan....amazing.


Anyway, after reading the comeback training article, and having my ass spanked the last two days by 12-15 set, one body part workouts, I have decided to follow Marcs comeback training split...but since it was not a total lay off I will start at Phase two, which is not quite such reduced volume and see how it feels.

I took today for cardio/abs and tomorrow I will begin his split. Which is basically a total body, lower volume,low intensity type deal. My main goal now is fat loss anyway, provided I stick to my diet, my resistance training will not have a world ending effect if its reduced....I just want to maintain my mass(which is pretty decent) and get my strength/endurance back up.

BTW Tren makes me sweat...yuck.
Grassroots082
Sorry if I missed it, but what's your diet like? Thanks
Mitosis
QUOTE(Grassroots082 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]453108[/snapback]
Sorry if I missed it, but what's your diet like? Thanks

No apologies needed....

10-12 times bodyweight in kcal

80 percent fat

20 protein

Trace carb, typical ketogenic.

I am not drinking anything but water, no splenda,sacch, diet soda,etc....

Diet has mostly been hard cheese, bacon,chicken,tuna,enova and eggs.

I am limiting veggies until I get sickly hungry, the I will pop some broccoli.

Will do a refeed once per week after a workout, approx, 600-700 g CHO. Over a period of a few hours...will be clean, very low in fat. Looking towards yams,bran,some oats and maybe some dextrose/malto right after training with my protein shake.

Today...

Cardio am 20 minutes, with a few sets of abs/obliques.

Later....whole body workout, low volume, will post workout later.

Had a NASTY tren cough this morning....got pretty scared....such a great compound but its like selling your soul sometimes with it.

I feel better....and I lost a lot of bloat in my body and especially in my face. Makes me have a little more motivation...hunger is getting better as I have been doing keto for three days now....seems to get easier after that. I dont feel like I have hit ketosis hard yet. I do not bother with keto sticks , I just go by breath, comments from my gf and urine odor.

Wow...urine odor. Thats hot.

Grassroots082
Haha, similar to what I'm doing. I am trying the anabolic diet, five low carb, two high (refeed) I guess. Never done a carb cycling program before but IMO low carb days fucking blow.

Urine odor FTW.

What would cause tren cough? I've never heard of anyone getting this running a transdermal? Are you sure it's not the BA or BB?
Mitosis
QUOTE(Grassroots082 @ Jan 31 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]453367[/snapback]
Haha, similar to what I'm doing. I am trying the anabolic diet, five low carb, two high (refeed) I guess. Never done a carb cycling program before but IMO low carb days fucking blow.

Urine odor FTW.

What would cause tren cough? I've never heard of anyone getting this running a transdermal? Are you sure it's not the BA or BB?



I kicked a blood vessel....maybe the BA/BB.....but I always seem to get it from tren only, never from prop/enth/winstr/mast
Mitosis
Well starting weight was 205-207 two weeks ago....


Was 194 this morning.


Continuing with Keto diet, been a week today on it...no refeed yet, I may do a refeed Wednesday after training.

Today I did a whole body workout, in the am. Phase 2 of MM comeback training. I will do my next weight workout Wed. Tonight and tomorrow will be some cardio/ab work.


I am feeling much better with this Keto plan. And its working....waist is under 33 now....much more comfortable for me.

Tren is really kicking in well...I feel like I am "on" tren. Sweating,more hardness and I am grouchy.
Jinx Me
Great progress man, keep up the good work!
Mitosis
Thanks,

Seeing results this quickly is motivating, I suppose my supplement regimen is obviously helping things move along faster then normal.

Anyway, no urgent need to binge right now....I figure if hunger gets horrible I will just eat more "low carb" foods, even if it puts me at maintenance, I should lose some bodyfat, or at least not gain any.

I may hold the refeed till Friday......we shall see.
lethaljd
Nice willpower on the low carb days. Impressive weight drop for 1 week. At 33 now, but what's your "ideal" waist size?
Mitosis
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Nice willpower on the low carb days. Impressive weight drop for 1 week. At 33 now, but what's your "ideal" waist size?


Thanks...

I have the gift of a very small, yet dense bone structure. My waist was at a 27-28 when I was at 6 percent....

Ideally though, around 31.5.....the weight loss on my waist tends to slow as bodyfat drops and goes to my pecs,glutes,legs,etc.

Today is cardio in the am.

Kcals have been 2000-2350 on average, gonna drop to 2100 max next week. See if that works.....if not add 5-10 more cardio per day.
Mitosis
Was starving yesterday, ate 2900 kcal, all low carb.

Thats still just under maintenance.


Weighed 193 even this morning.


Today will be full body weight workout in the pm.

I hope to be under 190 in a week or so. I do not forsee an issue.
Mitosis
Did cardio for 15 minutes this am with some abs. Cardio was on a slight incline treadmill aboit 3.4 mph. Just to get the blood flowing, weight has been dropping well, so I do not wanna get crazy with cardio yet.

3 sets cable crunch 12-25 reps

2 sets of seated v-ups 20-25


Waist is under 33 now, just under. I am very flat, have had some insomnia the last two days. Skin feels thinner on my upper abs....I think I see a "two-pack"peeking through.
Mitosis
Had 2600 kcal low/no carb yesterday, cals were higher cause I had a lte night up for my gf's birthday. But I was active, dancing and such,so I am sure some weight loss/fat loss occured.

I will weight train this afternoon, I am working all weekend, so I am gonna rest a bit and train later. Whole body workout as usual.


No carb up yet.....maybe Monday. I wanna see how long I can push no carbs.
Mitosis
Had a whole bodyworkout Friday....rested Saturday and Sunday and worked out a whole body tension workout on Monday. The Monday workout was followed by a clean carb up of about 700g of carbs. This was my first carb up in two weeks.

During the carbup I used:

Vanadium

Anabolic Pump

Sesamin

NR-ALA


All to help partition the carbs. This morning I looked fuller, but not bloated and definitely more cut.

Back to low carbs today, AM cardio for only 15 minutes and a few sets of ab work.

I am almost out of tren and masteron, so most likely will be running prop solo at a higher dose after tomorrow. Either 100-200mg ed. Most likely 100mg per day.

I have a tiny bit of equi, some wintrol inj., oral turinabol, proviron and high dose anavar left. I am getting low on gear and may go with a nonmethylated prohormone(one of the new ones) until I feel its safe to get more gear. I have plenty of clen and t4, and about 2-3 weeks worth of IGF-1 R3. I am looking at the furuzadrol or whatever....I dont wanna run methyls after running tren/mast....even with sesamin/ala I hate to think of my liver doing that.

I have been eating a bigger breakfast then I usually do(about 900-1000 kcal) and then a small lunch(250-450 kcal) and then I usually have two more meals, dividing the remaining kcal for the day....I find the bigger breakfast is helping my hunger.....that cheese just sits on me.

I am also taking Stimulant x for energy and appetite control and I am pleased with it for both. Of course sesamin at 2-3 per day and fish oil at 2-4 grams per day with meals. I also take some GLA once or twice a week for good measure....I have it laying around.

I got noticed yesterday as far as making progress..my gf said I look leaner and bigger. So that made my day. I am thinking my bodyfat is under 15 now, maybe 13ish. Waist is clearly under 33, pretty much a 32. I am keeping weight about the same the last 2 weeks....going from 193-195, so I am definitely recomping nicely. I am off clen as of last Thursday, gonna give myself a week or two off then go back on....I may also add lipoderm/clen derm tow the mix as progress stalls.

A 32.5 inch waist is not bad considering two weeks ago it was 35-36, bloated or not thats progress in my book. My face is thinning out too, I have cheek bones. I am looking fuller even on no carbs(perhaps from intramuscular fat stores?) and I feel harder pretty much all over. I have noticed my traps have grown quickly, perhaps the androgen receptor density,etc.

Sex drive is great, though once in a while old tren decides to kill my erection ability outta nowhere. Even with test,prov,masteron, cialis and cabergoline the other night I was dead in the water haha. Ah well...the price I pay. I am active usually at least once per day...sometimes up to 3 or 4, so once in a blue moon is not too bad I suppose.
Mitosis
Things are going well.....


According the the YMCA circum. method my bodyfat is 12-13.5.

According to the calculator on www.healthcentral.com which includes more then just waist, my bodyfat is 9.8 plus or minus 3 percent.....not that this all really matters, as the mirror is what we all strive to please(perhaps unattainable) but it is progress from 16 or so where I started. Been almost a month, and I am starting to get bery comfy eating keto style....after doing ud 2 and struglling prior, keto just seems so easy.

I did my upper body today, and will do lower tomorrow.....my last workout was Monday, a full body prior to my carb load, the last few days have just been light cardio as I have not felt super great and took a few easy days to heal. I am still holding weight from the carb up....about 198 or so...up from the previous weight of 193, I attirbute this to:

1. Not doing weights a few days

2. Starting anavar at 50 mg per day....orals tend to make me hold more glycogen.

3. Some growth from the carb up. As I look much better then two weeks ago.


I have increased volume and intensity ....next week I am not sure what I am gonna do workout wise, but I plan on upping the intensity/volume.
Jinx Me
Still reading - great to hear you're on track man smile.gif
Mitosis
Today was suppose to be lower body.....ending my workouts for the week.


I decided to do cardio, light cardio and rest.....and tomorrow I will be switching to UD2.0.

I feel retrained enough and that I have enough control to do it. I like that I am getting results and now is the time to throw gasoline on the fire.

I will post details tomorrow.

I will stay with keto for today, under maintenace....
D-termine
Nice log, its been a good read. Keep it up and post pics
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