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maxhealth
I started using picamilon recently for the first time. It's too early to give a detailed report but so far so good. I've been taking 100 mg per day and it has a definite effect. It's relaxing but does not make me sleepy at all. It's really weird because when you feel relaxed you expect to feel drowsy but that doesn't happen. It doesn't hurt my sleep because it seems to control any anxiety that might be present but does not put me to sleep.

I can still feel it the next day after taking it late in the day before. So far I've only taken it for 2 days. I like what I'm getting out of it and hope it's not just the "honeymoon" period which will fade away to nothing like so many other things have done. It's a little like phenibut but almost like there is a stimulant mixed with the phenibut. When I started taking it I was feeling burned out and stressed. Now I'm mellowing out. It will be a while before I can assess the long term effects. I hear you don't get a tolerance to the stuff like you do with phenibut.

Anybody else using it? I'll update this from time to time.
Raymond333
Ha, pretty funny, I just came here to post about picamilon myself. I started yesterday at 150mg, 3 times a day. Noticed a little bit of difference, but also am fighting a cold, so nothing significant. Today, I took 150mg in the morning, and then 300mg for lunch before going to the barber shop to get my cut. I will say that I was alot more talkative than usual...not sure if its the picamilon or just because its friday, and the weekend is finally here.

Not sure if taking 300mg was the smartest thing, and I thought it was okay until I read where most just take 150mg at a time. Any harm in this, or should I just cut it down to the 150mg, 3 times a day? Also, I read in one of the threads where they say taking this daily can cause anxiety rebounds...I dont have any anxiety issues that I know of, so would taking it daily be okay? I also smoke mj on some nights, would this affect anything as far as the picamilon goes?

Hope I didnt hijack, but it is along the same subject, so I think Im good.
SteveSliwa
QUOTE(Raymond333 @ Jan 25 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]451700[/snapback]
Ha, pretty funny, I just came here to post about picamilon myself. I started yesterday at 150mg, 3 times a day. Noticed a little bit of difference, but also am fighting a cold, so nothing significant. Today, I took 150mg in the morning, and then 300mg for lunch before going to the barber shop to get my cut. I will say that I was alot more talkative than usual...not sure if its the picamilon or just because its friday, and the weekend is finally here.

Not sure if taking 300mg was the smartest thing, and I thought it was okay until I read where most just take 150mg at a time. Any harm in this, or should I just cut it down to the 150mg, 3 times a day? Also, I read in one of the threads where they say taking this daily can cause anxiety rebounds...I dont have any anxiety issues that I know of, so would taking it daily be okay? I also smoke mj on some nights, would this affect anything as far as the picamilon goes?

Hope I didnt hijack, but it is along the same subject, so I think Im good.


300 mg daily is fine.

I would not recommend doing mj with Picamilon.
maxhealth
I'm interested in hearing all reactions to it. I'm sure others are as well if they are thinking about trying the stuff. I started out with a small dose but it seemed strong enough. I'm taking other stuff which may make it more potent, stuff like piracetam which potentiates other drugs effects.

The cold you have may have distorted the effects you got from the pic. I would wait a while to decide how you do with it. I would not jack up the dose really high in the meantime.

This might be really good stuff for someone with anxiety issues. I don't think it will do much for those looking for a legal high. You are better off with phenibut in that case or maybe something stronger than that. So far it seems to mellow me out some.
Raymond333
QUOTE(SteveSliwa @ Jan 25 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]451702[/snapback]
300 mg daily is fine.

I would not recommend doing mj with Picamilon.



The caps I have are 150mg each. Yesterday I took 1, 3 times a day (450mg total). What I was asking is today, I took 300 mg (2 pills) at once...is this okay.

Also, with the mj, I didnt mean at the same time...more or less, if I take it during the day, and do that at night, etc.
maxhealth
Steve, why do you not recommend mj with picamilon? Any specific reasons or you are just suspicious of pot?
Raymond333
QUOTE(maxhealth @ Jan 25 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]451703[/snapback]
I'm interested in hearing all reactions to it. I'm sure others are as well if they are thinking about trying the stuff. I started out with a small dose but it seemed strong enough. I'm taking other stuff which may make it more potent, stuff like piracetam which potentiates other drugs effects.

The cold you have may have distorted the effects you got from the pic. I would wait a while to decide how you do with it. I would not jack up the dose really high in the meantime.

This might be really good stuff for someone with anxiety issues. I don't think it will do much for those looking for a legal high. You are better off with phenibut in that case or maybe something stronger than that. So far it seems to mellow me out some.


Cool, I think I am going to stick with the 150mg, 3 times a day (450mg total). The only benefit I felt today was being more talkative than usual (when taking 300mg at a time). But, as you said, coming off this cold may not be letting me see the full benefits, even at 150mg.
SteveSliwa
QUOTE(maxhealth @ Jan 25 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]451706[/snapback]
Steve, why do you not recommend mj with picamilon? Any specific reasons or you are just suspicious of pot?


Possible interactions it's best to avoid them at the same time.
Raymond333

Steve- question...I did a search on picamilon, and I see where you suggest 300mg (at a time on some). Would you recommend that, or just sticking to 150mg, 3 times a day. I guess the question would be two-fold, one for just relaxation, or two for say going out and being more socialble/talkative. Also, should any alcohol be avoided at the same time as taking picamilon? Thanks.
SteveSliwa
QUOTE(Raymond333 @ Jan 25 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]451717[/snapback]
Steve- question...I did a search on picamilon, and I see where you suggest 300mg (at a time on some). Would you recommend that, or just sticking to 150mg, 3 times a day. I guess the question would be two-fold, one for just relaxation, or two for say going out and being more socialble/talkative. Also, should any alcohol be avoided at the same time as taking picamilon? Thanks.


Our MD.
Whatever dose works best for you is what I would recommend the lower dose that works the better.
Alcohol should be avoided with most drugs and supplements.
FunkMasterFlex
i used to just use 50mg sublingually whenever needed. Multiple dosing was more beneficial for me, but I did not take it religiously.
Colin
QUOTE(maxhealth @ Jan 25 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]451706[/snapback]
Steve, why do you not recommend mj with picamilon? Any specific reasons or you are just suspicious of pot?


I actually felt very good with 200mg picamilon and a few puffs,tried this a couple months back.

Relaxed,moreso than usual pot use (I only smoke around once per month so potheads wouldn't get this effect) without any sort of stupor/increased hunger.
maxhealth
I've been using it since wednesday and I still like the effects. I wasn't sure for a while if it was making me groggy or not but today I feel fine. I was short on sleep when I started it and then overslept a few days. Oversleeping will make me feel dopey anyway. I don't feel it quite as strongly after I take it now but I may just be getting used to it. I'm still using just 100 mg per day but since I use piracetam, most drugs have a stronger effect. Most people might need a larger dose.
Blase Deviant
Is picamilon one of those 'less is more' things? I've gone up to 1.8grams with no discernible effect.

I also appreciate that it's one of the bulk powders that doesn't taste like shit.
maxhealth
Blase, it may be that you are looking for the wrong thing. Pic will not give you sedation or anything really strong along those lines. Do you have stress or anxiety? This is great stuff for that. If you don't and are looking for a pick-me-up, you may not notice anything. It is mildly stimulating mentally but is not a stimulant.

I don't know about the less is more thing. I get what I need out of 100mg per day. Most people might need more. I plan to order in a supply before the idiots in office decide to go after another "threat to our youth" and ban it. Actually, given that many people don't notice much effect, it may be safe for a while. For anxiety it's the best. People on the net say it blows away xanax and other prescription stuff for that without the side effects. It helps with mood a little too.
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