I am an avid experimenter with Avant Topicals. I just wanted to share some new experiment.

I have done previous experiments using Capzasin-HP cream but became tired of the multiple product applications when using the cream.

I discover Liquid Capzasin (.15%) recently.



My first experiment is with Lipo-Ultra. I used 60ml or Lipo-Ultra and added 10ml of Liquid Capzasin. I just dosed it and there is a mild tingle that is not quite to a burning sensation. As a result of this finding I took it upon myself to add an additional 5ml of Liquid Capzasin. I anticipate considerably more tingle that will likely be a burn at this point.

So to summarize: 30ml Liquid Capzasin (.15%) to a whole bottle (120ml) of Lipo-Ultra will likely be the threshold for my burning desire.

I will consider adding this same quantity or there abouts to my next bottle of Napalm.

So it's .15% capsaicin?

I picked up a bottle of Pure Cap. It's 70% capsaicin suspended in veggie oil. I added that to my Lipo Ultra... oof, talk about a burn.

Nice.

I added an entire bottle of that around 6 months ago to some Lipo-Y I had. Felt like I was on fire. The pain would go away, but as soon as I got in the car or any sitting position and started to sweat it would start to burn all over again. ah, good times

Applied the 15ml/60ml - cap/lipo ratio this morning. Burn was just right.

As Jon stated this would equate to a whole bottle (30ml) to one whole bottle of Lipo/Naplm.

The burn "was just right?" You sir are a stronger man than I. I was applying my clen/napalm combo about 20 minutes ago and thought about getting another bottle of the cap and realized I really don't want to go through that pain again.

It is odd, though, that this time around it does not burn as much as it used too. Maybe I have less active by dosing it this way as oposed to the cream method. With the cream I used to apply liberally and it would burn my ass for what seemed like hours. I mean...tears

Maybe it is I am leaner this go around or maybe it is that I was using too much before, but it is not as unpleasant this way as I have experienced in the past.

quick question, you using the Napalm/Cap combo with clen added as well?

It's possible, but I don't think anyone has done it yet.

I think he's alternating between 10 days with Napalm and Cap and 10 days with Napalm and Clen.

I'm pretty sure I remember Christine(DSade's wife) saying she used Napalm with Cap and Clen, though.

As Ryan mentioned I am using each 120ml bottle of Napalm and Lipo-U - 60ml w/15ml clen and then 60ml w/15ml cap. Repeat.

It comes out to 10 days LU w/clen, 10 days LU w/cap, 10 days Napalm w/clen, 10 days Napalm w/cap.

I have cycled these a couple times like this but both were without the cap on the non clen days. This is my first complete cycle of both Napalm and LU with both clen and cap.

I have just entered into (like third day or so) the ten day LU w/cap phase and will follow this up with the Napalm w/clen for ten days and then follow that with Napalm w/cap for ten days.

I have cycled these two, two previous consecutive cycles prior to this one, this being the third. I am just about rubbed out as far as topicals go. I am also cutting up like no body's business.

Good stuff.

I think you could probably get by with longer cycles of Napalm and shorter cycles of LU. I believe Sir Savage recommended 3:1 on/off. I was planning on using Napalm for 4-5 days and LU for the rest of the week (2-3 days).

I've been using the Napalm/Clen combo for about 2 1/2 weeks now. I only added 30ml of clen to the Napalm which was = to 3000mcg.
I've got 1 more bottle of Napalm left. For this bottle I'm going to add 6000mcg(1 full bottle) of clen, along with the 30ml bottle of capzasin mentioned in the 1st post.
Someone stated the Napalm would get too runny, but I haven't found that to be the case.