a buddy of mine from work has decided to do a PH cycle (ive actually been considering it too, but im unsure as of now), and rather than let him destroy his liver & end up with post cycle test levels of a 5 year old girl ive decided to help him do it safely. he's gonna do it either way, so im not really looking for 'tell him no' etc etc, just some advice on keeping it safe and effective.


i have access to pretty much anything from m1t to old ids oxydrol12 to halodrol50 to the new stuff thats still legal from CEL & BCL... im not sure which one to recommend to him, so advice in that area would be helpful.

also NAC + liv.52 during the cycle, and novadex xt or 6oxo and LG formadrol or tbomb2 for PCT.

6-OXO standalone would be great for a first time PH user. No need for PCT with tapered dosing. Apparently, it doesn't mess with lipid profiles to any great extent. It's not methylated either.

In general: keep it short; use lowest effective dose; NAC, SAMe, and PPC for the liver; watch blood pressure; restore lipid profile afterwards.

i have not read a single thing about 6oxo being effective as far as gains are concerned?

Whoa, 6-OXO is a prohormone now? That's CrAzY.



I would go with Phera Plex clone, 2-ene, elephant pheramone or whatever they call it these days.

Ah, whatever.

Yeah, phera clones are very nice.

Theoretically, Phera isn't a PH either. I would take Heavy Lifters advice though and run 6-OXO by itself, as you won't get sides except maybe a limp dick and then sometimes that isn't all that bad or is it? If I were to take a legal, OTC compound of choice would be phera.