I would like to get your thoughts/recommendations on this cycle. Let me tell you a little back ground on me. I’m 48, been lifting on and off for 30+ years. My current (ideal) workout schedule is weight trading in the mornings Monday – Friday. I do cardio at lunch Monday – Friday, which consist of boxing 2-3 time a week and basketball 2 times a week. I’m 6’ and 178 lbs, with +/- 18% bf, I’m in good shape.

Here’s my goal, I runaround with people 10 – 12 years younger than me, which makes me feel a little old. My thought is if I could have a better body than them I would feel better about the age thing. I don’t want to be huge, just a little bigger and harder.
I admit I’m shallow.

My research has led me to the follow cycle:

Week 1-12 - Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/week
My question here is can I get away with less 250 mg/week, if I run HGH too? It has some benefits us old guys like. Would 1 iu/day be enough? Run for 6 months? Does MGF work as well?

There seem to be three schools of thought concerning running HCG. Some say run it during your cycle and some say run it after your cycle, some say not at all.
Your thoughts please.

Post Cycle -
Week 12-17 Tamoxifen Citrate 20/mg/day
Week 14-15 Clomiphene Citrate 100/mg/day
Week 16-17 Clomiphene Citrate 50/mg/day
Week 14-15 Spironolactone 50/mg/day
Is this need if you run HCG?

Mesterolone (Proviron) 25-50 mg/day for gyno or water retention – use at first sign. Acute case of gyno use Nolvadex 20-40 mg for 3-4 days, then Proviron.
Prostate issues use Proviron 50 mg/day

So for the long post.

I really appreciate your help.

You are 48, so what about HRT?

[quote name='JBarna' date='Feb 7 2008, 12:40 PM' post='455456']
You are 48, so what about HRT?


I did try some testosterone cream a couple of years ago, I forget what brand it was, not Androgel. I used 2-3 ml/day and it made me a little harder but on size gains. Maybe if I ran it around 6 ml/day with some HGH it might work better?

Thanks for your help.

Are you prone to gyno? Why the tamoxifen and then switch to clomid?

As for HCG, use it during cycle only to prevent testicular atrophy...once you are done, it will just keep your HPA shut down so you don't want to use it.

Hgh is synergisic with testosterone and also speeds recovery of htpt axis. So I think it would be a good idea to take it atleast with the cycle and pct if you don't stay on it. And i would skip the spironolactone.

You could run Test E at 400mg/wk...first cycle you want to see how you will react...id' save the Growth for when you have an understanding of your gear tolerance