Today's day 2...taking 5 tabs twice a day on an empty stomach, first dose upon rising, second dose about 6 hours later (both doses with my adderall).

Goals: Cutting.

Weight, upon rising: 226, down from 242 January 1st.

Current medications: Adderall 20mg BID, Lisinopril 20mg, Valium 10mg pre-bed, Letrozole .3mg, Raloxifene 60mg, Aspirin 325mg pre-bed.

Other supplements: NOW Foods Vit-Min 100+, Vitamin C 3g, Vitamin D 1000iu, Vitamin E 400iu, Jarrow's Time-Release NAC 1200mg, Grapeseed Extract 360mg, Hawthorn Berry 4g, CoQ10 300mg, Glucosamine Hcl 4.5g, MSM 4.5g, NP's ZMT 2 caps, Magnesium aspartate 400mg, Taurine 3g, Celery Seed Extract 300mg (about to run out and will not re-up), AL Sesathin 3.75g, milk thistle 900mg.

Workouts:
Day 1 - Flat Bench 5x5, BB Row 5x5, ATG Squat 5x5, BB Curl 3x5, Cable Shoulder Adduction/Horizontal Extension 2x12, Abs.

Day 2 - Traditional DL or DB Snatch 3x5, Pullup 3x5, Arnold Press 3x5, GHRs 3x5, Dips 2x10, Cable External Rotations 2x10.

Each of the workouts alternates between doing static weight or progressive weight, or sometimes by how I feel that day.

Week goes like this...Day 1/cardio/2/cardio/1/cardio/off/2/cardio/1/cardio/2/cardio/off/repeat.

Cardio: Running of some sort...trying to get away from the cardio machines in the gym as they are proven to be useless to me.

With today's workout, day 1, top sets were for the top 3 lifts, which I'll base strength gains mostly off of...
Flat bench 3x275
Yates Row 5x205
ATG Squat 4x295

Anyone think I miss anything?

EDITED.

What is your BMR and what is your current Kcal's? Can't wait to see how this goes, good luck.

VERY thorough update! I look forward to hearing your success story!

Thanks for the support gentz.

BMR...I really don't know honestly, as I've jumped up and down in weight the past few months rather drastically, but I'm going to guess around 3200 Kcal to maintain my weight, and I think I'm averaging around 2800 Kcal daily...but for the weightloss I've achieved in only 5 weeks, perhaps my caloric maintainence is a little higher...

Jeff, just realized that you aren't running AndroGenerator at the bodybuilding dosage which is 10 Tabs ED. At 6 pills ED you will experience great sexual benefits, but to get the FULL MUSCLE-BUILDING, STRENGTH-INDUCING, VEIN-POPPING EFFECT, you need to ru 10 Tabs ED.

ENJOY!

Ohhhh ok. Thanks. I will up it to 10 tabs ED.

So how was day 1?!

Don't want to jump the gun yet, as I haven't worked out since starting, only did cardio yesterday which continues to improve. Haven't noticed any sexual improvements yet...down another lb. though, 225 this morning, and still looking big, so, we'll see!

Will two weeks of this give any great benefit? Or am I going to have to get another bottle?

2 weeks is enough to BLOW YOU AWAY, EVERYONE IS

You'll definitely want the 2nd and 3rd bottles.

OK, I hope so! Always great to find a new product that actually works.

Check out these logs Jeff, you'll see what AndroG is all about! http://www.supremesportsfitness.com/viewforum.php?f=21

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.p...st&p=456812

How are you feeling 3 days in?

I'm not sure. I've been hella irritable lately, but that may be due to recent life circumstances or the ketogenic diet...we'll see what happens.

You should feel like humping grandmothers and small children.

AndroGenerator will cause drastic and immediate increases in testosterone Jeff, so if you feel somewhat agressive it is normal. That agression will translate into increased intensity in the gym and in the bedroom.

Haven't noticed an increase in libido, but doubt that I will because of the Adderall I'm on. Not even 700mg test prop a week brought it up (literally LOL).

I did notice yesterday I was more energized for my 7am workout...which I'm usually hating, but either getting used to it or this AndroGenerator is indeed helping the intensity in the gym.

ross, i sure hope your product doesn't cause that, very bad taste. ..small children?

C

oh relax

Is just a comment, won't go further. Yes I agree Long Jack and Tribulus are good libido enhancers due to a small boost in androgen levels, add 3 grams of CEE and you will feel pumps, strength increase and libido increase.

C

Ha, I second that, and if you look at the side effects of Adderall they say increased libido and false sense of euphoria. How do I get those side-effects? I want those, not the others like insomnia. lol

Even on ADDERALL, your libido WILL INCREASE. You'll see.

SSE: Well, I hope so.

JB: The vasoconstriction is more powerful than the libido increase from Adderall, so it's harder to be stimulated and hold/achieve an erection. The euphoria is just as higher doses, I only got that when I switched to 20mg twice a day, and only for a couple doses. I don't get insomnia...but that's because of my constant GABAergic drug use, which really turns on the libido.

Grociery list: Milk, Eggs, GABA...

J if you havent noticed there is an interesting thread on GABA in the Inner Circle forum I think?

bb

I wasn't actually talking about GABA...but the drugs that work through the GABA system

Good workout today. See log in training sub-forum for details.

Weight down to 221.5

Sadly I am not in the super sexy, female attracting, johnson growing inner circle. I need to stop being cheap and fork up the cash.

Is it a secret or can you share what you are taking?

Join the armed forces and you'll have cash to spare...

HAHA so my military dilemma is solved. Wow, that was easy!

A very good friend of mine who is prescribed Adderall has been using AndroGenerator very successfully guys, I am CERTAIN it will work.

Everybody reacts to drugs differently, thats why side-effects vary differently and some people find some meds very helpful while other people are non-compliant with those same meds. So to be "CERTAIN" is a very bold statement sir.

Very true. So far, it hasn't "worked" in that area yet. I'm not giving up hope either though.

I'd be shocked if it didn't. Any minute now...

Tell me how ya feel my man!

Honestly, no different really. Not sure if the product is helping me cut and maintain strength, which it might indeed, but I woke up another pound down and continue to only look leaner...too early to judge yet though.

Ok my friend, i'll stop bugging you for a few days, LOL. Most people notice immediate results, so I was just checking up on ya. Give it a few days and let us know how everything is going.

LOL OK, I'll update in a few days.

Hey Jeff, how are you these days?

Well, I still honestly can't *feel too much of a difference, that couldn't easily be attributed to placebo. Like I've said before, libido only goes up at night after the Adderall starts to wear off, and the Valium kicks in. I haven't worked out since the last update, only went for a jog yesterday. But, I am getting leaner everyday it seems, and weighed in at 218 today. So, perhaps it's accelerating fat loss at a phenomenal rate, or, doing nothing at all. January 1st I was about 242, and now about 6 weeks later I'm 218, using a ketogenic diet I should mention, so I should have experienced some strength loss with a drastic amount of weight loss in a very short period of time. Point being, let's see where my strength is tomorrow when I workout.

*One thing I can say, my mood seems to be elevated beyond what Adderall normally provides, given a number of crappy circumstances that should be affecting me otherwise. I still have 5 days left, so let's see what happens. I'm still convinced that the ingredients in this product do have great potential for most claimed effects, but not quite as fast you're expecting.

Just so I know I'm doing this right then, 1 dose upon waking on an empty stomach, and the second dose 6-8 hours later again on an empty stomach, correct? Would it be better to spread it out even further, as in 12 hours apart perhaps?

Great update Jeff, very thorough. Yes, take 5 tablets in the AM and 5 PWO*, 8-12 hours is fine.

Are you going to be back in the gym working out soon?

Yessir. I only do 3 weight workouts a week; Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Other days, cardio or off.

Today's workout...

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.p...st&p=459284

Feels like strength is improving a little since the initial loss from dieting...time will tell.

Just out of curiousity, do you normally take a creatine supplement? .

Good updates Jeff, thaks for staying on top

Normally? Not really...I'll go a few months using Synthesize, then go a few without it. It's really just if I have the extra funds for it, as the cost outweighs the benefit most of the time.

Creatine mono is dirt cheap. A <$20 1kg tub of creatine will last months.

IMO, well worth the money spent.

I believe the androgenerator contains CEE already ???

Z

AndroGenerator does MUCH MORE than just BOOST TESTOSTERONE! AndroGenerator contains a POWERFUL Muscle Cell Generating Matrix:

3-GPA (Guanidinopropionic Acid) - Guanidinopropionic Acid (N-(aminoiminomethyl)-beta-alanine) is a creatine monohydrate analogue. GPA helps to regulate insulin function and produces remarkable synergy when co-administered with Creatine. Its actions have been compared to those of the drug glucophage. 3-GPA mimics the positive glycemic properties of carbs, which include transporting nutrients, loading muscles with glycogen for fullness and vascularity, supplying readily accessible energy sources for intense training. Guanidinopropionic Acid eliminates the negative effects of carbs, which include storing excess carbohydrate calories as fat and negatively affecting energy levels by causing rapid rises and falls in blood sugar levels.

Remember, Research has shown that guanidinopropionic acid can drastically improve insulin function. Insulin is an anabolic hormone. This means that it triggers the body to make new muscle tissue from dietary protein. Insulin also causes the body to increase its uptake of creatine to muscle tissue. Insulin is responsible for transporting nutrients through the bloodstream to guarantee maximum absorption and utilization of any and all supplements (legal and illegal). Insulin also intensifies the delivery of carbohydrates, and supplements like creatine, glutamine, and others into the muscle cells for amazing pumps and muscle fullness. Guanidinopropionic acid can drastically improve insulin function, promote weight loss, improve your muscles' ability to contract, increase your body's creatine uptake, and most importantly, cause enormous swelling of the muscle-bellies!


Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate (CEEM) - The most ADVANCED form of Creatine ever developed. CEEM is a highly soluble creatine compound that provides a much greater increase in creatine bioavailability over regular creatine monohydrate or any other current form of creatine! CEEM is a creatine molecule that is bound to malic acid. Malic acid is a naturally occurring krebs cycle intermediate, meaning that malic acid plays a crucial role in our natural energy producing cycle. Malic acid coupled with the effect of creatine as in CEEM offers much greater ATP production over any other creatine!

This POWERFUL creatine will significantly increase lean muscle mass, strength, energy, endurance, and muscle-cell hydration. CEEM has the ability to enhance energy reserves and muscle protein synthesizing action, while minimizing protein breakdown. This occurs because CEEM has the INCREDIBLE effect of super-hydrating muscle cells with water. This increased muscle-cell hydration results in a much greater capacity of the muscle to absorb vital nutrients for growth and maintenance.. There is NO OTHER CREATINE that can compare to the power of Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate!


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Glutamine is the most common amino acid found in your muscles - over 61% of skeletal muscle is Glutamine. Glutamine consists of 19% nitrogen, making it the primary transporter of nitrogen into your muscle cells. During intense training, Glutamine levels are greatly depleted in your body, which decreases strength, stamina and recovery. It could take up to 6 days for Glutamine levels to return to normal - and Glutamine plays a key role in protein synthesis. Studies have shown that L-Glutamine supplementation can minimize breakdown of muscle and improve protein metabolism. Glutamine plays key roles in protein metabolism, cell volumizing, and anti-catabolism. Glutamine also increases your ability to secrete Human Growth Hormone, which helps metabolize body fat and support new muscle growth. Glutamine's anti-catabolism ability prevents the breakdown of your muscles. This is especially useful for people 'cutting down'. Especially during summer when you're trying to get rid of some body fat without losing any muscle. Glutamine is needed throughout your body for optimal performance. Your small intestines requires the most Glutamine in your body, and your immune system also needs Glutamine Because Glutamine levels deplete during workouts, bodybuilders are more susceptible to illnesses - this is why Glutamine supplementation is so important, not ONLY to gain more muscle, but for the 'MIRACLE EFFECTS' effects of Glutamine.

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Yes that was sort of my point, a notable strength gain can be made by supplementing with CEE alone. If Jeff had been using CEE already then any strength gain would be significant, since he was not it may be the CEE.

Sorry guys, I know what creatine can do, and the price of regular creatine monohydrate. The latter bloats me like a fish and I'll never use again. CEE has never provided me with any strength gains at all. So, if I've gained any strength or at least maintained any while using this product, it is most definitely not from the creatine. I'm not about to say "whoa!!! my test levels are through the roof!!!!! ZOMG LOLZ!!!!!" So, that's it with that.

EDIT: The reason for using Synthesize is the potential enhanced nutrient uptake if someone was going to ask, btw, not for the creatine.