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captainbicept
Decabolen
By CTD Labs


A very special thanks to http://www.megasupplements.net/ for letting me test this product for his company.

Each serving of 1 Decabolen capsule contains:
Decabolen Blend 45mg
http://www.megasupplements.net/en/2149/decabolen-60caps.html

2-ene(17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol) 10mg
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol 25mg
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one 10mg


This is a new product released by CTD. It is a new product comprised of old ideas. Essentially, Decabolen is a combination of Superdrol, Halodrol and Pheraplex.
This product therefore has the potential to be three times as dangerous. However, the combination of these ingredients may prove to be synergistic and be very powerful when combined.
I have experience with most androgens out there. Therefore, I will be able to make a good comparison of what this may be similar to.
A small list of some of the androgenic/anabolic compounds I have used are:
Testosterone (cypionate, enanthate, propionate, and sust.)
Tren
Winstrol
Dbol
T-bol
EQ
M1T
4AD
MDHT
M5AA
M4OHN
IGF-1 L3
Peg-MGF
Insulin
Nolvadex
Arimidex
Aromasin
Clomid

The Decabolen will be run for 30 days at a dosage of 90mgs/day. While running Decabolen, I will also be using a vitamin B complex, NAC, Glucosamine/chonodroitin, fish oil, potassium and milk thistle. Additional supplements that I may use during the month are "Stim’d Out" ( http://www.megasupplements.net/en/2196/sti...0-capsules.html ), chocamine, green tea extract, ephedrine and geranium extract.
I plan on utilizing the DC style of training during my run with Decabolen. I will be training four days a week. Along side my DC training I will utilize cardio very sparingly. I am naturally an ectomorph and a hard gainer.
captainbicept
Yesterday was the start of day 4 on Decabolen.
I am definately retaining a good amount of water already
I am therefore adding femera at 1.25mgs/day.
captainbicept
I am getting back to the gym and to a steady diet as well today.
I have been conistently laying around and eating terribly for about a week.
I have had the flu and my chronic stomach conditition was acting up.
My throat is still kind of sore and all. However, I am going back to the gym today.
When I weighed myself this morning I hadnt lost or gained any weight.
This was kind of surprising as I am a hardcore ecto. If I become sick my body rids itself of mass immediately.
Kimbo
Any chance you might get some blood work done post trial?
captainbicept
I will be getting blood work donw as soon as Im done with PCT.
Every cycle I run is followed by PCT and then blood work.
D Sade
Any experience with androgen induced sickness before? Think it had anything to do with it?
captainbicept
I've had cases of "test flu" before. They were not pleasant.
While I can not guarantee that this was not androgen induced, I can not deny it either. I had a low grade fever, sore throat, swollen glands, runny nose and congestion. However, something about it didnt feel like a flu and did feel similar to those test flu symptoms.
However, test flu is more of an all over "my body feels run down and like shit" sensation. This time I just felt like I had a mild flu, my stomach made it really bad. The coarse of the flu on its own however, was not debilating by any means.
As far as it being test flu, I am inconclusive. However, I doubt the androgens were of any help.
captainbicept
I just had my first workout back to the gym in a week since my one-week layoff from being sick.
I had an uncanny workout.
I not only beat but also flew by all my PRs on my DC style of training.
I had taken geranium extract and GTE 45 minutes pre-workout and Gakic two and half-hours prior to that.
Although I wasn’t looking forward to any of my sets in between sets and I wanted nothing more but to leave the gym then while I was there; I had great energy and strength during my sets.
captainbicept
I had another great workout this morning.
I took geranium extract, ephedrine and GTE pre-workout.
I beat most of my PRs yet again.
If these workouts keep up the way they have been and my blood work comes back in an acceptable state after PCT, I will rate this product highly.
captainbicept
I am two weeks into my cycle and am up four pounds.
I am not holding much water weight if any. However, I am using femera at 1.25mg/day.
Today produced another pretty good workout. I am having good workouts so far this cycle. Being new to the DC style of training, I can not tell whether my strength is increasing this rapidly due to having to adapt to a new training style or the Decabolen.
I am not getting the intense kind of workouts I would expect from being on a testosterone-based cycle. Furthermore, Decabolen is not producing pumps of any kind. AAKG, creatine, and beta-alanine are a much better "pump stack" than Decabolen.
D-termine
Just a small note, and I don't mean to detract, but PP routinely gives me the flu when I start it. And props for this combo, I've run 6 orals spread out over 2 months before and even this product scares the shit out of me
captainbicept
QUOTE(D-termine @ Feb 25 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]461153[/snapback]
Just a small note, and I don't mean to detract, but PP routinely gives me the flu when I start it. And props for this combo, I've run 6 orals spread out over 2 months before and even this product scares the shit out of me

I dont mind at all.
Thats good to know that the PP may be the culprit. It also happens that everyone in my gym was sick the same week I was. There was something going around. I dont want to be to quick to point fingers, at which one may have made me ill.
I welcome any and all comments.
Members please feel free to add your opinions or tell me if there is something missing that should be filled in.
Thanks.
Kimbo
QUOTE(captainbicept @ Feb 22 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]460290[/snapback]
I will be getting blood work donw as soon as Im done with PCT.
Every cycle I run is followed by PCT and then blood work.

Would be great to see what your #'s are like immediately post cycle, but that's cool too.
captainbicept
QUOTE(Kimbo @ Feb 26 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]461239[/snapback]
Would be great to see what your #'s are like immediately post cycle, but that's cool too.

I know. I completely agree with you. However, I can only get my blood tested so many times, before my insurance company asks whats going on and my doctor wants to know why an other wise healthy 25 year old wants his blood tested monthly. smile.gif
As much as I want to know my hormone levels immediately post cycle, my health is my primary concern and I want to know my levels approximately one week after finishing PCT to make sure I am back to a healthy state.
captainbicept
I am now entering week 4 of my cycle. I am still making steady strength gains. I am increasing in both reps and weights on most of my exercises. As I noted earlier I am following the DC training routine. When I can’t beat the previous week’s performance, I switch up exercises. I have not had to switch exercises very often at all. IN three weeks I have gained 5 pounds. I have not gained any fat. I was holding some water weight, however that was eliminated with the use of femera at 1.25mg/day.
My body is starting to feel very over trained and taxed. I am looking forward to ending this cycle, so that I can start cruising and take a small break from DC.
captainbicept
Decabolen The conclusion
http://www.megasupplements.net/en/2149/decabolen-60caps.html
Each serving of 1 Decabolen capsule contains:
Decabolen Blend 45mg

2-ene(17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol) 10mg
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol 25mg
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one 10mg

This is obviously a very heavy compound. It utilizes a combination of Superdrol, Halodrol and Pheraplex. I was honestly expecting something similar to running an Anadrol cycle. I was expecting rapid gains in mass and strength, and some severe side effects.
At first I was experiencing some fairly intense bloat from the water retention. I added Femera at 1.25mg/day and the water retention was dissipated rather rapidly.
I gained a total of 4.5 pounds of lean body mass. I did not gain any body fat. However, it should be noted that I am an ectomorph and do not gain body fat. I typically eat junk food before bed (like cake) just to keep weight on.
My strength did go up a significant amount. I am not going to list the percentages I increased for all my lifts just the main compound movements. Keep in mind I was using the DC style of training, therefore I was not doing the same exercises every week. Furthermore this was only a four-week cycle.

Deadlift: 43% increase in reps, no increase in weight
Incline dumb bell press: 8% increase in poundage, reps stayed the same
Military press: 7% increase in poundage, reps stayed the same
Squat: 43% increase in reps, no increase in weight

I would consider these modest strength gains. I would not consider these on par with what I would expect from Dbol or Anadrol.
I did not suffer any side effects other than the water retention I noticed in the beginning of the cycle. Towards the end of my cycle I noticed a slight shift in mood, however this was nothing extreme.
I intend to have blood work done and posted after I have completed my PCT.
Please post any comments, questions or requests.
Below is my breakdown of this product:
Side Effects: 1/10
Strength gains: 5/10
Mass gains: 5/10
Body re-composition effects: 5/10
kone
I have never taken roids or much other than Xyience products and some BSN supps. I did take Andro back on 2 occassions. I bought some Decabolen and I don't know if I should even take it now. I got some liver support with it, what should I use as a PCT?

sorry for my ignorance, but what is a "PP" that is talked about in this thread?
I am 35, 155# Had 1 shldr. surgery a year ago and the other shldr. done in November. Trying to regain some size. When I don't work out, I drop weight/size like crazy.
babyblu
Kone, please dont take the Decabolen. Please do lots of research first.

bb
captainbicept
I used femera @ 1.25mg/day while on cycle.
I am using Nolvadex for four weeks as PCT.
For my liver I used a combo of ALA, NAC, milk thistle, multivitamin.
Furthermore, my supplement regime for my PCT is quite extenisve.
DO NOT use this product unless you truly know what you are doing and that would require extensive research.
Furthermore, I believe everyone's first cycle should be a simple test enanthate or cypionate cycle of 400-500mg/week. It is simple, safe and little can go wrong. If you have a problem with needles, then you are playing the wrong game my friend.
D-termine
Playing with a long cycle your first go around is not the best idea imo. If you have any kind of tendonitis, watch that test fuck you up. I've run 8 cycles now, and the PCT I've run on a 8 week mixed oral cycle was a breeze compared to an almost identical one that I ran after a 4 month TD cycle of T and some other shit. Basically, being shut down that long you need to run HCG, and you need to know your shit. A 4 week cycle of Phera Plex at 30mg/day with a Nolva/Activate PCT can be run by almost anyone rather simply. So no, your premise of everyone should start with Test is more than a bit flawed.
captainbicept
QUOTE(D-termine @ Mar 18 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]466528[/snapback]
Playing with a long cycle your first go around is not the best idea imo. If you have any kind of tendonitis, watch that test fuck you up. I've run 8 cycles now, and the PCT I've run on a 8 week mixed oral cycle was a breeze compared to an almost identical one that I ran after a 4 month TD cycle of T and some other shit. Basically, being shut down that long you need to run HCG, and you need to know your shit. A 4 week cycle of Phera Plex at 30mg/day with a Nolva/Activate PCT can be run by almost anyone rather simply. So no, your premise of everyone should start with Test is more than a bit flawed.

Testosterone has been researched extensively for over a century now. There are tens of thousands of studies on it. Thousands of them demonstrating safe usage of it. Furthermore, testosterone has been shown to speed recovery of torn tendons.
If you trust a product like phera more than a product as simple as testosterone than your logic is more flawed than mine.
Additionally, you do not need HCG for an 8 week cycle of testosterone, it can be used but is not needed. Using an A.I. during the cycle such as femera or aromasin and then using a SERMs such as clomid and nolvadex for PCT will allow an easy recovery.
Four week cycles of orals rarely allow one to solidify gains. Most users lose all gains they attained from a 1 month oral only cycle in less than a year, more likely six months.
captainbicept
Blood Work

All blood work was done 17 days into PCT. My PCT started the day after my last dose of Decabolen. I am not posting the ranges, only my numbers, if you want to know if a certain number is considered elevated I will indicate it with an H. You can look up the ranges on your own at www.google.com


FSH + LH
FSH 6.0
LH 14.33 H

AMA-Comp Metabolic Prof.
Glucose 108 H
Urea Nitrogen 12
Creatinine 1.1
EGFR >60
BUN/Creat Ratio 10.9
Sodium 139
Potassium 3.9
Chloride 104
Carbon Dioxide 27
Calcium 9.2
Protein, Total 6.8
Albumin 4.1
Globulin 2.7
A/G Ratio 1.5
Alkaline Phosphatase 89
AST (SGOT) 37
ALT (SGPT) 30
Bilirubin, Total 0.3
Ferritin 38
Amylase 102
Lipase 28

DHEA-Sulfate 344.0
Testosterone 427
Ceruplasmin 32
C-Reactive Protein 0.60

CBC/DIFF/PL
White Blood Cell Count 7.3
Red Blood Cell Count 4.93
Hemoglobin 14.3
Hematocrit 44.0
MCV 89
MCH 29.0
MCHC 32.5
Neutrophils% 62.0
Lymphocytes% 30.0
Monocytes% 6.6
Eosinophils% 1.1
Basophils% 0.2
Meutrophils, Abs 4.5
Lymphocytes, Abs 2.2
Monocytes, Abs 0.5
Eosinophilis, Absolute 0.1
Basophils, Abs 0.0
Platelets 240
RDW-CV 13.1
MPV 10.3

AMA-Lipid Profile
Cholesterol 138
HDL Cholesterol 41
Cholesterol/HDL 3.4
HDL Chol (%) 29.7
LDL Cholesterol 77

VLDL Cholesterol 20
Triglicerides 100

This was a complete pain in the ass to type up. I hope everyone appreciates it.
bearmeat
QUOTE (captainbicept @ Apr 21 2008, 03:50 AM) *
This was a complete pain in the ass to type up. I hope everyone appreciates it.


LOL. Much appreciated.
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