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Whacked
200 pound male
10% BF
40 years old
No heart problems or Blood Pressure issues.


Plenty of gear experience. Absolutely no experience with Albuterol (or Clen).


Please design a cycle for me. I believe the Keto helps lengthen the cycle time?
Whacked
hellooo
Jay Black
You don't need ketotifen for albuterol, but if you have it, you can run 1-2mg ED ketotifen the third week of the albuterol cycle. I would do 2-8mg 3x daily albuterol for 3-4 weeks (followed by equal time off). Start at a lower dose, and build up to what you can handle. Yohimbine hcl is another great addition to run with it...5mg Y HCL in the morning with the first dose of albuterol is all you need, and also will allow you to run the albuterol for longer cycles, but I still wouldn't exceed 4 weeks.
Whacked
QUOTE(Jeff @ Feb 24 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]460691[/snapback]
You don't need ketotifen for albuterol, but if you have it, you can run 1-2mg ED ketotifen the third week of the albuterol cycle. I would do 2-8mg 3x daily albuterol for 3-4 weeks (followed by equal time off). Start at a lower dose, and build up to what you can handle. Yohimbine hcl is another great addition to run with it...5mg Y HCL in the morning with the first dose of albuterol is all you need, and also will allow you to run the albuterol for longer cycles, but I still wouldn't exceed 4 weeks.


Thanks Jeff.

Yohimbine HCL + Albuterol? Holy Moses! Won't I feel like a total crackhead?

I appreciate the advice on the YO-HCL but I think I'm going to run the YO on the 2 weeks off.

I planned a 2 ON/2 OFF run for 6-8 weeks. (2 OFF weeks I'd run a Thermogenic with YO-HCL).

Bad idea?

Also, once daily is all I'm supposed to dose this? I thought it had a very short half life so 3x/day was the norm?
Jay Black
QUOTE(Whacked @ Feb 24 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]460751[/snapback]
Thanks Jeff.

Yohimbine HCL + Albuterol? Holy Moses! Won't I feel like a total crackhead?

I appreciate the advice on the YO-HCL but I think I'm going to run the YO on the 2 weeks off.

I planned a 2 ON/2 OFF run for 6-8 weeks. (2 OFF weeks I'd run a Thermogenic with YO-HCL).

Bad idea?

Also, once daily is all I'm supposed to dose this? I thought it had a very short half life so 3x/day was the norm?

The Y-HCL needs only to be dosed once in the morning for the stack to work. Albuterol does need to be dosed 3-4 times a day, every 4 hours preferably. 2 ON/2 OFF is fine, but then you won't need the ketotifen at all, and don't use ECA stack while "off". Avant Labs HEAT + caffiene would be a good stack in between cycles, or just yohimbine and caffiene. Just do not use any other beta-agonists like ephedrine/albuterol/clenbuterol on off weeks...this is a common mistake, IMO. Then of course you can always add in gemfibrozil or sesathin throughout the 6-8 weeks you do this for a more pronounced effect.
Whacked
QUOTE(Jeff @ Feb 24 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]460760[/snapback]
The Y-HCL needs only to be dosed once in the morning for the stack to work. Albuterol does need to be dosed 3-4 times a day, every 4 hours preferably. 2 ON/2 OFF is fine, but then you won't need the ketotifen at all, and don't use ECA stack while "off". Avant Labs HEAT + caffiene would be a good stack in between cycles, or just yohimbine and caffiene. Just do not use any other beta-agonists like ephedrine/albuterol/clenbuterol on off weeks...this is a common mistake, IMO. Then of course you can always add in gemfibrozil or sesathin throughout the 6-8 weeks you do this for a more pronounced effect.


Excellent. Thanks!
el es dee
QUOTE(Whacked @ Feb 25 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]460873[/snapback]
Excellent. Thanks!


and some T3 and test and of course GH
zuper1
QUOTE(el es dee @ Mar 16 2008, 03:16 AM) [snapback]466077[/snapback]
and some T3 and test and of course GH


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Would Benadryl any less effective?
Jay Black
Not IME.
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