Is there any benefit to taking a dose of a prohormone/prosteroid on the day of a refeed? I can't find it now, but I read on a BB board this weekend how a guy was saying that every week when he refeeds he takes 1 pill, i think it was superdol, and according to him he has gotten fantastic results off of this. All of the responses were in awe of this genius plan and I wanted to see what some knowledgeable folks thought...wouldn't this type of dosing just give one all of the negative side-effects with none of the positive benefits? Or am i missing some added benefit to doing this?

Thanks

I wrote a thread questioning this on here and lyles body recomp board. the drug dudes on body recomp didn't think you would gain much benefit from it. Loky talked about it in 2004 on bb.com but he first got the idea from lyle. I couldn't find much info on it or experiences.

Where is the thread with this dude you speak of.

Don't remember...I found it while google searching diffrrent prohormones/steroids and low carb diets and refeeds. I don't remember the exact search string I used or the website, I think I viewed it through the google cache since it required registration. It kinda stuck in my mind afterwards and as I said above I wanted to run buy some people here.

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.p...5&hl=refeed

Here's what I found doing a quick search of this board...

I think a better idea would be to make your refeed meal, right after your highest volume workout

This will probably result in less fat storage, while still giving your body
the fed signal you are looking for

I think it takes time to achieve full effect from a steroid, even orals. For example while you do an all-oral cycle of something like winstrol, it takes about 3-4 weeks before full effect in terms of recovery and strength are appreciated.

Just because the halflife of a drug is only 9 hours (or whatever) doesn't mean the activity of the drug has a halflife of 9 hours. Perhaps the reason for this is certain transcription factors for proteins or other beneficial responses from steroids take time for encoding within cells.

So in short, I'd take the superdrol every day rather than one day a week.

based upon the little bit of reliable information i can find, pretty much the few threads on this board, maximizing partitioning on a refeed day seems to be what people are hoping to achieve. I've been tryign to find the mentioned discussions by loki on BB.com but cant find them. I'm curious as to whether using superdrol for 1 day or 2 would result in the numerous negative side effects manifesting...

Or maybe it's just that anabolic effects don't start to be visually remarkable until the 3-4 week mark, when you have put on a considerable amount of muscle mass. I once took superdrol for less than 3 weeks and got probably the best shape of my life.

As for the main topic of the discussion, I think it's a matter of pondering if the small anabolic effect you will get from your one weekly pill of superdrol is of a lower or higher magnitude than the small HPTA supression you will get from it.

Is it possible that 1 or 2 days of something like superdrol or pheraplex or havoc would cause HPTA suppression?

What is your reasoning behind assuming it would supress HPTA at all?

I was under the impression than supression was something that happened over an extended period of time. Resulting from AR being activated by your prohormone/steroid of choice for a long period of time at a severity that your body considers alarming and in response to this constantly elevated activation stops pulsing LH from the pituitary. If you aren't activating the AR's for a sustained period of time I find it unlikely you'd experience suppression. Unless my understanding of the whole thing is flawed (totaly possible).

Yes I would hope this to be the case. Some steroids and orals are supposed to shut you down faster than others. I wonder what makes one steroid shut you down faster than another.

even m-1t wont do that in a day or 2 even(dose dependant ofcourse)

if you can accurately judge how you feel after a refeed, then take 10 or 20mg SD and see if you feel any differance after you eat?