I remember there being some discussion about the down sides of Yohimbine a while back and if it should be used by it self or with ECA or stimulants. Maybe it was over the superiority of transdermal Vs oral alpha or HCL... I seem to remember discussion of Yohimbine making one extremely sensitive to starvation mode or something. Does anyone remember that thread? It was either Spook or Par.

For those of you who have tried Yohimbine what is your opinion. Good, bad, ECA is better, stay away?

only topical use

+1

Alpha yohimbine OTOH,is fine as far as oral usage is concerned.

QUestion..

I have some PUMP product...you rub it on in areas.. and it contains Y.. would this help with fat loss in that area applied also?

VasoTran Edurus Ingredients:
Methyl Nicotinate
AAKG (Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutorate)
Capsicum (Capiscum Frutescens)
MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane)
Corynanthe Yohimbe Extract
Ascorbyl Palmitate
Tocopherol Acetate
Caffeine

Other Ingredients:
Water, Glycerine, Cyclomethicone Dimethiconol, Glycerine, Denat., PEG -60 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Sodium Bicarbonate, Acrylates / C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Camellia Oleifera Seed Extract, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, Phenoxyethanol, Capryl Glycol, Sorbic Acid, Tetrasodium EDTA, Triethanolamine, Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (Bergamot) Fruit Oil, Lecithin, Caffeine


Thanx

that doesn't look to be localized.

Not to go off on a tangent...However, I am still unclear about the differences between alpha yohimbine and yohimbine hcl? If someone could provide a brief explanation or post an article containing such information I would appreciate it.

Thanks for the replys...

I will have to look into alpha a little more. Quick and dirty why is it ok orally and HCL not?

Personally, when I've taken Yohimbe, I puked.

When I've taken Yohimbine HCL, I didn't puke, but I had the feeling of wanting to puke.

When I've taken the Yohimbine thats in HEAT (I can't remember what its called)
I feel just fine.

Stick with the type of Yohimbine that is in HEAT.

HEAT Stack Writeup

Scroll down to the section on alpha-Y.

Good things, I've never actually bothered to look @ the ingredients in HEAT. The write up has me curious to say the least. How well does it do compared to an actual ECA stack though?


Edit I guess it doesn't matter since it looks like it isn't for sale anymore.

Compares very well to the ECA stack. Beast did a detailed log several years ago, you might want to search for that. You can also take HEAT for a longer period of time since it's milder on the HPTA. It also stacks with other fat burners very well. It's one of my all-time favorite supplements.

With alpha-yohimbine do you get the increased libido effect?

Everytime I have taken Y-HCl I get horny as fuck..