I'll be using DCP while on very low calories over the next few weeks. DCP will be dosed at 1 cap 5xED - this is being stacked with the following (which I've already been using for the last couple of weeks):

1 cap Leviathan Reloaded 4xED
1 cap Nutraplanet GTE 5xED
3 caps HEAT stack 5xED

Diet will be PSMF'ish with intermittent fatty refeeds, or a carb refeed if I feel like I need one (which I'll note). If a meal happens to have a little more fat in it I'll up my DCP dosage to 2 caps.

Why 1 cap DCP 5xD?

Here I am...definitely watching.

Marc seemed to get good results with this protocol. Not sure exactly what the half life of some of the ingredients are, but I'm thinking that this will keep the salvia active for longer in my system. I'm dosing my other stuff this way too, so it's also more convenient for me.

Feeling a bit warm this morning. I'll have more to report later.

Matt, should I up my pre-workout dose to 2 caps?

Just to let y'all know, here are the things I'm going to be looking for, in order of importance:

1. Energy levels.
2. Any other feelings while I'm on this stuff (mood, mental clarity, etc.)
3. Fat loss - I already know it's good for this, but will try to see if there are any differences while on really low calories - should know this within a week or two.

I'm also going to start tapering off of Leviathan Reloaded over the next week or two, and I'll be phasing in CLA and EndoAmp. This will all be part of a (relatively) stimulant free fat loss stack targetting VAT. I'm really curious as to how my energy levels will be once I drop the LR.

Moved this to the feedback section.

I'm starting to lower my dose of stims... actually, I haven't had any today (just a 1/2 caff coffee) and I'm feeling alright so far. After about 4 weeks of time it just "feels" like I need to give the stims a break - it's almost as if they start having the opposite intended effect. I should be feeling great in about a weeks' time.

I'm hoping to see a pronounced drop in VAT. Also, if I feel ok on 5 caps 1xED of DCP I may start increasing my dose.

You are a better man than I.

It's really tough. I absolutely love stims for the first 2-3 weeks, but by week 4 I just start feeling like garbage. I'll most likely switch to decaff coffee next week as well

How's your mood and mental clarity?

Pretty good. Head's feeling very clear today.

Yeh when I read about your stim use and dosage over the past few weeks I was quite surprised at the amount of stims you use. I can only handle smaller dosages and have to have breaks otherwise I feel too mentally burnt out and non vibrant.

Well, Leviathan Reloaded was at standard dosing (spread out over smaller doses), but I was stacking it with 1.5x HEAT dosing. Even without the HEAT, though, a standard dose of LR (or just about anything stim related) would do me in in about 3-4 weeks.

I'm still going to continue taking HEAT - it's very mild.

I was considering a similar PSMF using Leviathan Reloaded, DCP, and Napalm. Would that be too much Yohimbine?

For myself and the 10 or so clients I put on this during my initial experiments, a few of us found that we felt better mentally when doing it this way. I tried it with many different dosing patterns, and liked this the best for fat loss and avoiding foggy-brain.

Great product, still one of my favorites for fat loss.

That is interesting. I wonder, what in the DCP formula is causing this foggy brain phenomenon.

TTA.

But its not a universal thing. 60-70% of my clients that have used it haven't notice any fogginess.

Depends I think. The Napalm will be mostly local, but some of the yo may go systemic. I'd be more inclined to go with something besides LR if you need the appetite suppression.

Yeh actually marc I don't think it's the TTA. As I have dosed straight TTA to compare.

maybe your different than the people that experience these side effects

Maybe

Did anyone talk of foggyness when the first TTA product (melting point) come out?

I think DCP probably has less TTA in it than a standard dose of Melting Point.

Still a bit tired, but it's probably just me adjusting to a lower caffeine intake. I may still stick with 1-2 half caff coffees a day.

DCP has a much lower dose. I definitely think it is caffeine related.

It should be dully noted that I'll be embarking on a 2 week PSMF using DCP. I'll contribute to this.

Right on.

Been off the stims (mostly) for a good while now, and I'm feeling decent. I need a half-caff coffee sometimes, but that's about it.

Anyway, DCP 5x ED is just fine on low cals, haven't had any issues.

I don't notice any fogginess or lethargy on day 2.