Stats 5'-10.5'', currently 190 lbs, 22% or so BF. 90% of my fat is in my belly, chest and love handles it seems, as I have fairly defined legs and arms for that BF. 22yo

Arms R-14.5 L-14.0

Legs 24 Calf 15

Waist 36 Chest 43

Main Goal-Recomp as fast as possible

I just gained about 20lbs in fat because of multiple poor excuses, mainly a back injury. I recomped from 220 to 170's about a year ago, mainly using a keto diet and a 3/day/week full body routine.

I can do any workout anytime, buy any food, and pretty much any supps I need. I currently have........

CEL M-Drol, sesamin, ALCAR, gemfibrozil, tons of herbs, Kratom, Raw Organic Powdered Ephedra, Kola Nut, Dialene 4, ALA, CLA, good liquid fish oil, raw flax, and I use EAS Protien ($28 for like 10lbs)

Ross from SSE was supposed to send me some Omnibolic and AndroGenerator, but nothing is for sure until I get it in my hands.

My Idea was a carb cutoff, around 150g/day, none after noon. Average fat, and of course at least 200g protien. Workout wise, me thinks EOD alternating between HIIT sprints and Full Body compund shit, LFLYOC style. Sundays off, no drinking.

My genetics are above average, actually very good I think. My recovery is very quick, it is quite hard for me to overtrain.

But the more I read the more I get confused... I do realize a half-ass program well adhered to is better than the best program half-assed.

Just looking for some professional opinions here, as its easier for me to follow an outline dictated by someone else as opposed to always second guessing myself. (You overly intelligent dudes feel free to use me as your guinea pig for new ides if you like)


Side note-I want to make this as rapid as possible, (instant gratification...Plus im an all or nothing type, no moderation) So I want to use the M-drol and the fibrates to my advantage. Ive not yet ran a cycle (well 1 week of AX SD for cardio purposes). I am familiar with proper cycle support and PCT(1-week of an AI, right???)

I plan to log with pics and make one mother-fuck-all of a transformation, so hell, LES DOOOO EEEEET!!!!

"Ross from SSE was supposed to send me some Omnibolic and AndroGenerator, but nothing is for sure until I get it in my hands."

Yeah, I've heard that before...

"Workout wise, me thinks EOD alternating between HIIT sprints Or tabata intervals? and Full Body compund shit, LFLYOC style. Sundays off, no drinking."

Think that should do it.

personally I'd stay away from the "all at once" style of dieting/training/cardio. Your setting yourself up to crash. I know your "goal" is to recomp as fast as possible, but when you've done that you have no place left to go. I suggest progessively increasing your stimuli while gradually decreasing cals. Carbs could be cut immediately and you'd still see the instant gratification your looking for.

^true true, but like I said, all or nothing seems the only way for me...I fail at moderation when it comes to this

IA? What thinks you given someone in my scenarion has kick-ass recovery and fibrates?

Yes, that sounds good. HIIT can be quite hard particularly on your mind (in my case) I usually slowly increase the amount of HIIT or decrease the jog portion (which I aim for 10 sec spring 20 second jog).

When younger I made tremendous gains from twice a day training. I did no more than 45 min at a time, not to failure and at least six hrs apart five days a week (maybe six I lost my log for that time). This routine required more calories than anything else I have done - aside from playing football but that doesn't count.

The two-a-days were not to fun since it requires you to wake up real early so you can accommodate it to your schedule, but if you have the desire/willpower go for it you won't be disappointed.

^I like that idea. When I was in the State Fire Academy, we did a program that I would vaugly compare to a LFLYOC style routine (but with dummies, logs, bottles, foam canisters, and cardio) at 7am and 3pm. I didnt know shit then and the only protein I got was in the cheese on my pizza or pasta. Most of the guys got skinnier, and I seemed to recomp.

I have not read anything on a 2 a day, but will research. I would also like to hear IA's opinion on this, if it is possible with good genetics and androgens(I know I shouldnt but imma gonna)

So you say big caloric surplus with this Reven?

From my recollection the large amount of calories are required to help prevent overtraining. As is the lack of training to failure and the short duration workouts. If you were to attempt such a routine for dieting I would strongly recommend avoiding failure reps, sleeping, and keeping calories a bit higher than you normally would at first. A good protocol for avoiding failure would be to stop the set when your reps start to slow.

It's a good thing that you have good genetics and a hard time overtraining, it is these factors that will allow a program like this to work. I noticed you were planning for full body workouts. If you did not want to jump right into 2 a days you could definitely keep your current plan but on the full body days do lower body in the morning and upper in the evening or vice versa or push pull etc.

What I did/would do is simply split up my upper lower body split into two workouts or I'd hit each body part every 36 hrs, something along those lines. For the 36 hrs method you could rotate three workouts, one of the workouts could be HIIT (possibly with some auxiliary movements) and the other two would be upper and lower. My gut says go for the three rotating workouts as it would be slightly less demanding and incorporates HIIT nicely.

If you go this way I'd be interested in your routine and your results. I haven't attempted such while dieting, however, I suspect if done properly you could retain more muscle than normal while losing a considerable amount of fat. On the other hand I've heard good things about UD2.