Is it possible to lower your thyroid levels for a short period of time, say a day or two? How would this be done.

Reason: Your getting a blood test done by by your doctor and your thyroid levels are going to be checked, if you could manipulate this level to be low you could get a thyroid prescription.

Possibly a high dose copper and/or calcium supplement for several days before the test.

Crash diet.

Not too sure what you mean by a crash diet, or how long this would be required. Unfortunately, I'm making really good gains in the gym this moment so depending on what would be required for a crash diet I may or may not try. I suppose if it means two days of little eating, I could do that and maybe take e/c to help preserve my muscle.

Use a protein sparing modified fast (PSMF). Keep the workouts short and intense and muscle loss should be minimal. However, more than two days of low calories would be needed to lower thyroid (right? Some else else can chime in.)

If you are worried about sparing muscle, exogenous thyroid hormones are probably not the way you want to go.

You're right Benson, at this point not the best idea, in a few months this may change. However, an opportunity has risen and I may as well capitalize if I can.

On the muscle sparing note, would exogenous thyroid hormones still be problematic if used very sparingly, I was originally thinking of using them to rid of the last bit of fat during dieting. Reading a recent M&M article I took notes about preventing muscle break down, such as high protein and omega 3 diet while supplementing with l-leucine and a 2X a day drink of HMB, L-glutamine and L-arginine. I'd also use E/C.

Or are they best used during AAS to prevent muscle loss.. That being said, how long can T4 be stored for later use? Freezing/refrigeration?

I believe lithium at medical dosages would do the trick but I most certainly don't recommend it.

Getting a fake lifetime condition in order to get a drug you can easily and legally order online is a bad idea.

Doesn't worth it but for the record,carb restriction,soya,cabbage..

You believe correct, but lithium affects some more so than others, and some not at all - but I could be wrong. On the other hand, obtaining a prescription for lithium would be extremely easy. Second this method would probably be the best for muscle gains, many users also notice an increase in weight gain do to increased water retention (something along the lines of sodium) - it is rec omened to increase water intake and to also exercise to reduce this weight gain (which I believe could be because of the decrease in thyroid hormone). The major drawback is the possibility (low - something like 1 in 100 don't quote) of forming a goitre.


I just realized I may have violated board rules by posting this thread. Sorry if I did - please delete the inappropriate parts.

Anyways I do find the concept of lower thyroid levels interesting, too bad doing so appears to be no good on your muscle except for possibly the lithium (which could be a mild decrease), or high dose copper/calcium which I don't know enough about but suspect only short term duration.

It may be easy but if it were really legal, why isn't there a single licensed US pharmacy, brick-and-mortar or online, that will sell you thyroid medications without a script?

He probably means you can legally purchase thyroid medications as research chemicals. Making a drug prescription allows for the pharmaceutical company to make a lot more money, if it were available OTC i think there would be a lot of people abusing it, that could end up in serious health problems.

US law does not extent outside the US. You can not buy a prescription drug within the US without a prescription. Anyone can legally walk over to Canada or Mexico or travel to Europe get a drug and come back with no problems. Or you can simply order a drug outside the US and have it mailed to you. I've done this over 100 times (for business purposes over 5,000 times) and Never had a problem. Customs have opened my mail several times and I've had my luggage check several times and every time they told me no problem. Hence legal. They informed me only if it was a DEA controlled drug do they have any legal right to stop me.

Despite what the FDA

No. Several international companies legally sell prescription drugs without a prescription to the US. This has been done since the mid 90's. Currently 3 US supplement companies sell European drugs without a prescription and have done so for over 10 years and no problems.

It is legal to possess a not controlled (state or DEA) drug in the US as well. I know this through several sources and direct experience. Which makes how you get it pointless.

Um you walked into Canada went up to the pharmacist and asked for a drug that they have control of and they gave it to you?!?!? Sorry I'm having the hardest time grasping this, now I understand some drugs the pharmacist has behind the counter will be sold without a prescription such as rubbing alcohol (possibly insulin related goods) but generally speaking anything they have access to can only be sold with a prescription. I could be wrong but I doubt our topic is one of those things.

Now anecdotal evidence may not be worth much but: I tried to purchase a chemical used to deworm fish or bacterial infection on humans (flagyl) from the pharmacy as I could save a lot of money doing so vs purchasing ten-fifteen packages off the shelf from the fish store. I could not get it because I needed a prescription (confirmed from multiple pharmacists and with multiple approaches). That's a product I could purchase OTC, isn't dangerous, isn't a public threat, and I still couldn't get it.

If you were able to come into Canada and get it then one or some of these three occurred:
1. Canada's system is completely f'ed up and I enter sever cognitive dissonance
2. You're very charismatic
3. You got lucky

Importation of any prescription drug (not necessarily a controlled substance) violates 21 USC, Section 301(aa), unless the following conditions are met (as listed in Section 804):
The drug is imported from Canada, from a seller registered with the Secretary (i.e. with FDA);
The drug is imported from a licensed pharmacy for personal use by an individual, not for resale, in quantities that do not exceed a 90-day supply;
The drug is accompanied by a copy of a valid prescription;
The drug is a prescription drug approved by the Secretary;
The drug is in the form of a final finished dosage that was manufactured in an establishment registered under section 510; and
The drug is imported under such other conditions as the Secretary determines to be necessary to ensure public safety.

No personally I've went to Mexico and Europe for drugs (mostly just order from pharmacies direct). Although there are several otc drugs in Canada you can get without a prescirption there that are prescription drugs in the US.

Ha so wrong and outdated. I'm sorry but I have vastly more experience dealing with this than you do. FDA has tried to make guidelines for people who chose to buy their drugs outside the US at the same time they would have you believe the all FDA approved drugs bought outside the US is illegal and unsafe.

FDA and customs have no power (if any very limited) to regulate what goes on outside the US. Hence customs never gives me any problems with my drugs if it was truly illegal they would not send it to me or let me pass customs with it and I would be arrested or charged with something.

My main point. Even if on paper it's "illegal" they do not enforce it at all. Endpoint a law that is not enforced is basically invaild.

That plus the well over 5,000 customers I've dealth with would not be very happy.

And on top of that ####, #####, ######, #######, and ##### to name a few would not be in business.

buying thyroid meds online is cheaper than getting a script

Doubtful. Generic Synthroid from 25 to 200mcg is $0.133/dose from Walmart.

at least in my experience. i guess i didnt consider the synthetic meds. i was foolishly comparing the price of armor thyroid to cytomel