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JENNuh
I started using Napalm about a week ago on April 1st. I am applying three pumps 2X a day total to the following areas: lower stomach, love handles and the back of my thighs right beneath my butt. I always use a loofah in the shower or a washcloth with warm water to cleanse the areas before applying. Just for a point of reference I am 5'7" and about 120 lbs. I have never used a topical fat burner before but so far it has been easy enough to implement into my routine. The only issue is of course the smell. However, by focusing on the ever so slight scent of rasberry I can disregard the potent chemical smell. I've already gotten comfortable with the smell but I don't know if the same can be said for the people sitting around me in class...

Concerns:
-after a few days I noticed some swelling in the areas I was applying it, is this just normal water retention?
-does anyone have any techniques for a quicker dry? Even if I put it on in the morning and walk around naked for 20 minutes its still not dry by the time I get dressed.
-I have very sensitive skin and it is already extremely dry and chapped, at what time of day should I apply lotion?

I took before pictures and I will take some more in another week. I'll post the before ones in a couple days smile.gif
Rodzilla
QUOTE (JENNuh @ Apr 6 2008, 07:45 PM) *
I started using Napalm about a week ago on April 1st. I am applying three pumps 2X a day total to the following areas: lower stomach, love handles and the back of my thighs right beneath my butt. I always use a loofah in the shower or a washcloth with warm water to cleanse the areas before applying. Just for a point of reference I am 5'7" and about 120 lbs. I have never used a topical fat burner before but so far it has been easy enough to implement into my routine. The only issue is of course the smell. However, by focusing on the ever so slight scent of rasberry I can disregard the potent chemical smell. I've already gotten comfortable with the smell but I don't know if the same can be said for the people sitting around me in class...

Concerns:
-after a few days I noticed some swelling in the areas I was applying it, is this just normal water retention?
-does anyone have any techniques for a quicker dry? Even if I put it on in the morning and walk around naked for 20 minutes its still not dry by the time I get dressed.
-I have very sensitive skin and it is already extremely dry and chapped, at what time of day should I apply lotion?

I took before pictures and I will take some more in another week. I'll post the before ones in a couple days smile.gif


I use Napalm myself, and my friends can be brutally honest. I don't think anyone else notices the smell.

The swelling is normal water retention from the Y, I got it too..it seemed like my waist went down, but definition got a bit blurred. Don't worry.

You really don't need to lather the napalm on, just cover the areas. I rub it around for a few seconds before trying to air dry, thats my only trick.

I would apply lotion a few hours after Napalm, and be careful that you aren't scrubbing too hard with the luffa.."exfoliate don't annihilate" tongue.gif

make sure you wait a few days after discontinuing to take the pictures, let any of the Y bloat subside. Can't wait to see your results. biggrin.gif
JENNuh
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 6 2008, 07:58 PM) *
"exfoliate don't annihilate" tongue.gif


solid.

Here are the before pictures I promised. I can't even believe I'm posting these, but I am confident that the results will leave my body bangin' so that should make up for the initial embarrassment. wink.gif







D-termine
Wow, she told me the pics were a bit provocative, turns out they're barely work safe. I hope this works well, my integrity as the Master of all Supps is at stake here
methodice
Nice-ergolean!
D-termine
Ergolean?
Ras
QUOTE (methodice @ Apr 10 2008, 07:12 PM) *
Nice-ergolean!


LOL. Definitely nootropic at any rate.
rpen22
The first thing that popped into my mind when I read "nice-ergolean" was Nicergoline. That may or may not be what Meth was playing off of, but either way, nice log. smile.gif
Colin
I'm not seeing a discernable amount of fat.

Consume a steady diet of pizza,milk shakes and alcoholic beverages for a month.

Then use Napalm to get your money's worth.

JENNuh
QUOTE (Colin @ Apr 10 2008, 08:44 PM) *
I'm not seeing a discernable amount of fat.

Consume a steady diet of pizza,milk shakes and alcoholic beverages for a month.

Then use Napalm to get your money's worth.


I'll get right on that smile.gif

Anyhow, I am coming up on my second week and I am beginning to notice some progress. However, the excessive water retention in the areas makes it difficult to tell.

Diet:
-1400-1500 calories per day
-carb cycling for the past 6 weeks
-my weekly schedule goes like this:

Mon-moderate
Tues-high
Wed-no
Thurs-mod
Fri-low
Sat-mod
Sun-no

-moderate days are 100 carbs, high 150 and low 50

Concerns:
-the bloating, particularly in the stomach area, is incredibly uncomfortable. I know the yohimbine causes it, but do I just have to deal with it or does anyone know of any way to help reduce it?

Rodzilla
QUOTE (JENNuh @ Apr 13 2008, 09:43 PM) *
I'll get right on that smile.gif

Anyhow, I am coming up on my second week and I am beginning to notice some progress. However, the excessive water retention in the areas makes it difficult to tell.

Diet:
-1400-1500 calories per day
-carb cycling for the past 6 weeks
-my weekly schedule goes like this:

Mon-moderate
Tues-high
Wed-no
Thurs-mod
Fri-low
Sat-mod
Sun-no

-moderate days are 100 carbs, high 150 and low 50

Concerns:
-the bloating, particularly in the stomach area, is incredibly uncomfortable. I know the yohimbine causes it, but do I just have to deal with it or does anyone know of any way to help reduce it?


usually the bloating is merely a cosmetic issue. I get it myself, it seems that my stomach goes down, but I get a bit of blurred definition. If you are actually uncomfortable..do you think you could be applying more than you need? You only need to coat the area..excess is just that; excess.
JENNuh
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 13 2008, 09:11 PM) *
usually the bloating is merely a cosmetic issue. I get it myself, it seems that my stomach goes down, but I get a bit of blurred definition. If you are actually uncomfortable..do you think you could be applying more than you need? You only need to coat the area..excess is just that; excess.


I am only applying one pump to each of the three areas two times daily. So one pump for my lower stomach is just enough to spread a thin layer across the whole area. I'm sure I'm not applying too much. Could it maybe be that I am just sensitive?
Rodzilla
QUOTE (JENNuh @ Apr 14 2008, 01:23 AM) *
I am only applying one pump to each of the three areas two times daily. So one pump for my lower stomach is just enough to spread a thin layer across the whole area. I'm sure I'm not applying too much. Could it maybe be that I am just sensitive?

Sure. Is the discomfort like a cramping feelings?
el es dee
try standing in front of a fan to help it dry faster
JENNuh
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 14 2008, 05:03 AM) *
Sure. Is the discomfort like a cramping feelings?


Actually, the past couple days I have had some cramping and random sharp pains in my stomach in addition to the bloating. It's just difficult for me to attribute any discomfort to the napalm because I don't really know how topicals are absorbed. Is this bad..
Rodzilla
QUOTE (JENNuh @ Apr 14 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Actually, the past couple days I have had some cramping and random sharp pains in my stomach in addition to the bloating. It's just difficult for me to attribute any discomfort to the napalm because I don't really know how topicals are absorbed. Is this bad..


I had a bit of that the first time using..but nothing that was really causing me pain. If you are uncomfortable I would cut back to 2 pumps spread all around the bottom area there.
Odium
QUOTE (JENNuh @ Apr 14 2008, 11:30 AM) *
Actually, the past couple days I have had some cramping and random sharp pains in my stomach in addition to the bloating. It's just difficult for me to attribute any discomfort to the napalm because I don't really know how topicals are absorbed. Is this bad..



I don't think this is the Napalm. Either something in your diet has changed or you are using not-properly-cleaned shaker cups.
D-termine
Personally I just think she's a whuss...
Stay Puft
QUOTE (D-termine @ Apr 14 2008, 02:20 PM) *
Personally I just think she's a whuss...


Hmm, we should adopt this as the new company line?

I am unsure of how bloating/pains might be attributed to the Napalm, but find it unfortunate that these sides have manifested themselves. How serious are we talking, and how do they link up to the application times/area? For example, has it been consistent where application is followed by the discomfort, or is it idiosyncratic? Have you felt similar pain in the past (pre-Napalm)? Are the non-abdominal sites causing anything notable with respect to discomfort? Thanks and for your sake I hope this issue plays itself out quickly.
D-termine
My only experience with Avant Topicals has been a Capz/LipoY/Clen mixture, so I'm not much help in the sympathy department. AR: If its not burning or falling off, it's not workin'
JENNuh
QUOTE (Stay Puft @ Apr 14 2008, 11:37 AM) *
Hmm, we should adopt this as the new company line?

I am unsure of how bloating/pains might be attributed to the Napalm, but find it unfortunate that these sides have manifested themselves. How serious are we talking, and how do they link up to the application times/area? For example, has it been consistent where application is followed by the discomfort, or is it idiosyncratic? Have you felt similar pain in the past (pre-Napalm)? Are the non-abdominal sites causing anything notable with respect to discomfort? Thanks and for your sake I hope this issue plays itself out quickly.


Haha, I am a tough girl, I will definitely be able to endure this for the remaining time. There is no correlation between the application time and the discomfort. The pain is localized to my lower stomach area and the pains are completely random, short and sharp mixed with some cramps. The only reason I thought it could be the napalm is because I have never felt anything like this before so I couldn't come up with any other reasons to put my mind at ease. And my diet is exactly the same. The other areas I am applying it to are fine. As long as it doesn't get worse I'll get over it.
D-termine
How much of an issue can systematic uptake be with the Y? She has been describing the jittery, over stimulating effects of the Y fairly accurately, so I guess this is an issue for those users new to it.
djremix
i might have missed this somewhere
but is it cool to add clenbuterol to napalm or not?
same amounts as old lipo ultra?
Rodzilla
QUOTE (djremix @ Apr 15 2008, 05:05 AM) *
i might have missed this somewhere
but is it cool to add clenbuterol to napalm or not?
same amounts as old lipo ultra?

http://www.avantresearch.com/node/41
djremix
Thanks!!

my failing memory tells me i even saw that page when i originally bought napalm(and not used it yet!)

JENNuh
I don't want to lose my credibility by throwing everything out there as soon as it comes, so over the past few days I have been monitoring my symptoms to come up with a more accurate description.

Symptoms:

-cramping and pains in the lower stomach area only
-occurs immediately after application and persists for around one hour
-slightly increased heart rate and jittery feeling after application as well
-began around the beginning of my second week

My only speculations are based off of something my boyfriend said about systematic uptake. I have noticed my fat loss has been more rapid throughout my entire body since I started napalm. Maybe after I got to a certain body fat percentage I started experiencing these symptoms? So far I have already gotten used to the cramping and I just keep getting skinnier biggrin.gif
Ras
QUOTE (JENNuh @ Apr 16 2008, 12:26 PM) *
I don't want to lose my credibility by throwing everything out there as soon as it comes, so over the past few days I have been monitoring my symptoms to come up with a more accurate description.

Symptoms:

-cramping and pains in the lower stomach area only
-occurs immediately after application and persists for around one hour
-slightly increased heart rate and jittery feeling after application as well
-began around the beginning of my second week

My only speculations are based off of something my boyfriend said about systematic uptake. I have noticed my fat loss has been more rapid throughout my entire body since I started napalm. Maybe after I got to a certain body fat percentage I started experiencing these symptoms? So far I have already gotten used to the cramping and I just keep getting skinnier biggrin.gif


I get something similar to the 'cramping' feeling with Napalm. It's mild, but noticeable; feels vaguely like rectus abdominus DOMS.
Rodzilla
QUOTE (Ras @ Apr 18 2008, 01:47 PM) *
I get something similar to the 'cramping' feeling with Napalm. It's mild, but noticeable; feels vaguely like rectus abdominus DOMS.


I've had it as well. Jen, you are a small girl using max dosage. Systemmic uptake is possible, and your symptoms sure sound like it. I would decrease dosage. Fat loss is coming nicely though?
Kimbo
QUOTE (Ras @ Apr 18 2008, 02:47 PM) *
I get something similar to the 'cramping' feeling with Napalm. It's mild, but noticeable; feels vaguely like rectus abdominus DOMS.

I've also experienced this, and it's exactly as you describe. Never to the point of discomfort though.

Definitely sounds like some of the yohimbine is going systemic.
JENNuh
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 18 2008, 06:31 PM) *
I've had it as well. Jen, you are a small girl using max dosage. Systemmic uptake is possible, and your symptoms sure sound like it. I would decrease dosage. Fat loss is coming nicely though?


Very nicely smile.gif How much of an issue is the systemic uptake? I tried reducing to two pumps a couple days ago and it is just too difficult to spread that amount over all of the areas. Plus, I only have about one week's worth left and I just want to get through it.
Sir Savage
The cramping thing is very odd. This is the first time I've heard about this...

What is thought to be the systemic uptake of yohimbine, though, may just be nervousness about possibly experiencing the cramps again or something along those lines. The reason I say that is because those of us who have used a little too much yohimbine orally know that there isn't a slight increase in heart rate and anxiety- there is a significant increase. It's always a possibility, though.
D-termine
I hope the final pics will show the fat loss as well as it looks in person. I have to say, I'm pretty damned impressed with her results. Out of all the fatloss agents she's used, this is has by far proven to express the most dramatic results
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