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Mr.Kite
So I decided to check out what CustomCapsule.com had available for making into capsules, and at first I was dissapointed that they had so many items that were seemingly useless. But I managed to throw this together, which seems like it might be a nice addition to a cutting stack (such as the one I am currently running), and appears to be pretty cost effective (I have just about maxed out the capacity of two pills - any more mg's and I spill over into 3 pills). A great thing about it being in two pills is I can take them separately, allowing me to spread out the dosages, for things like the Guggul and the Forskolin.

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300 Pills per order
Serving: 2 Pills
Guggul 600mg (10% Guggulsterones)
Green Tea Extract 500mg (50% Catechins) - A low dose, I know, but its all I could fit
Coleus Forskohlii 100mg (20% Forskolin)
Evodiamine 15mg
Yohimbine HCl 5mg
Longjack 25mg (100:1 Extract)
Naringin 25mg
Lycopene 15mg

Total: $56.27


Does anyone have any recommendations for additions (check the site first for availability), or changes to the ingredients/dosages?
Bachovas
You just gave me an idea that may lead to a bastardized HEAT...or should I say HEYT?

I have only came up with a few formulas that don't require 2342394 pills per serving. HEYT may just work.
Mr.Kite
QUOTE (Bachovas @ Apr 6 2008, 11:54 PM) *
You just gave me an idea that may lead to a bastardized HEAT...or should I say HEYT?

I have only came up with a few formulas that don't require 2342394 pills per serving. HEYT may just work.


I dont see Hordenine or Tyramine on their list though, unfortunately (or many many other chemicals I'd like to play around with).

I also have a revised version of the above, since I decided I might be better off with some 7-Hydroxy-DHEA instead of the green tea (which was mostly just a filler).

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300 Pills per order
Serving: 1 Pill

Guggul 350mg
7-Hydroxy-DHEA 100mg
Coleus Forskohlii 50mg
Evodiamine 15mg
Yohimbine HCl 5mg
Longjack 15mg
Naringin 20mg


Total: $71.58


With this one I would take two of those pills a day, which would give me a solid dose of all of the above for what amounts to $14.30 a month. Now thats a steal compared to buying them separately.
Chainsaw1
QUOTE (Mr.Kite @ Apr 7 2008, 03:32 AM) *
I dont see Hordenine or Tyramine on their list though, unfortunately (or many many other chemicals I'd like to play around with).

I also have a revised version of the above, since I decided I might be better off with some 7-Hydroxy-DHEA instead of the green tea (which was mostly just a filler).



With this one I would take two of those pills a day, which would give me a solid dose of all of the above for what amounts to $14.30 a month. Now thats a steal compared to buying them separately.



Looks good, I like the addition of the 7-Hydroxy. There are guys making Adrenalean replicas but we don't have the Horedine. Good luck.
Mr.Kite
QUOTE (Chainsaw1 @ Apr 7 2008, 05:32 AM) *
Looks good, I like the addition of the 7-Hydroxy. There are guys making Adrenalean replicas but we don't have the Horedine. Good luck.

Nor do you carry L-Huperzine A, Arecoline, or PEA; all of which are additional ingredients in Adrenalean. What is the process one has to go through to request new materials be added to the site?
lethaljd
how about some Salvia?
Rodzilla
I don't know why you dudes still use gugguls. Everybody thinks they are shady bidness.
Mr.Kite
QUOTE (lethaljd @ Apr 7 2008, 09:47 AM) *
how about some Salvia?

This is another product they dont carry, along side many many others.

QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 7 2008, 10:05 AM) *
I don't know why you dudes still use gugguls. Everybody thinks they are shady bidness.

True, I've heard about their promiscuous binding affinities, but for some reason that hasnt been enough to push me away. Is there reason to think that along side test boosters and androgens that Gugguls will till be problematic in regard to androgen receptor binding? If not, then it seems that the cholesterol and thyroid effects are worth their inclusion.
Rodzilla
QUOTE (Mr.Kite @ Apr 7 2008, 12:12 PM) *
True, I've heard about their promiscuous binding affinities, but for some reason that hasnt been enough to push me away. Is there reason to think that along side test boosters and androgens that Gugguls will till be problematic in regard to androgen receptor binding? If not, then it seems that the cholesterol and thyroid effects are worth their inclusion.


honestly, I've just left them out along side of hydrogenated oils. I don't look at much of the research on them, or even the speculation. I just avoid them. Huge thread on bb.com.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=466547
Mr.Kite
Well after reading the thread, the progesterone activity is worrisome, so I am looking for a replacement for that slot in the pill now. Two options that might be effective at that dose (2x daily) are Raspberry Ketones (I can fit 240mg) and N-Acetyl L-tyrosine (I can fit 300mg). The ketones are about $10 cheaper.

EDIT: Well I just saw Nutraplanets Raspberry Ketones dosage suggestion, which was 100mg 2x daily. Seems a bit low, but in that case I can easily fit the RK's in, and maybe something else.

Well I have whipped up v3.0, and I think it is the best one yet:

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300 Pills per order
Serving: 1 Pill

N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine 140mg
Raspberry Ketones 125mg
7-Hydroxy-DHEA 100mg
Coleus Forskohlii 50mg
Yohimbine HCl 5mg

Longjack 15mg
Naringin 25mg

Vanadium 1mg
Chromium 200mcg
Iodine 150mcg

Total: $70.53

I'd be taking 1 pill, twice daily.
Odium
Why did you drop the evodiamine? That's a great addition.
Mr.Kite
QUOTE (Odium @ Apr 7 2008, 03:25 PM) *
Why did you drop the evodiamine? That's a great addition.

The price, primarily. Around 50mg seems to be the standard dose, and adding 50mg to the pill (in place of 40mg of the N-A-L-Tyrosine) changes the price from $70.53 to $92.50. I decided that it wasnt worth it, but I've never used an Evodiamine product before, so what do you think? Is it worth it? (This post seems to suggest its not as effective anyways)

Finally I realized that the 5mg of Yohimbine HCL is adding $4 to the overall, is it even worth including with everything else in there? 20mg of Synephrine HCL is about the same price too... Is it worth an add, or just leave them all out?

EDIT: After comparing my ingredients to AMP2, I seem to be moving towards a caffeine/DIM free AMP clone. Now if only CC stocked Kaempferol and Zingerone!
Mr.Kite
Final Version! (v4.0)

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300 Pills per order
Serving: 1 Pill

Raspberry Ketones 125mg
7-Hydroxy-DHEA 100mg
Bitter Melon Extract 80mg
Coleus Forskohlii 75mg
Evodiamine 50mg

Naringin 25mg
Longjack 15mg

Vanadium 1mg
Chromium 200mcg
Iodine 150mcg

Total: $95.61


I am pretty happy with this mix, and think its a product that should be picked up by CC as a prepackaged one. I will be taking two pills a day, which gives me a 150 day supply, or 5 months. The breakdown for a months supply of this is: $19.12 which is pretty decent. It's cheaper than almost any stimulant free fat burner on the market (and has better ingredients too [with the exception of the fatty acids/ligands on the market]).

I also added a set of 300 caps with Green Tea Extract (800mg of 50%) and Grape Seed Extract (85mg) to my cart, and in concert with the 15% off code for M&M users, it all only came to $116 shipped. And now I'm broke. Between this and all the other dieting supplements I picked up (Here), I'm going to be living off of canned tuna for weeks (hey, at least it fits in with the calorie restriction/starvation theme).
Redsky
I like how you attempted to cover all bases: stim, glucose, and duration of action. smile.gif
Tkarrde
I think CC is a really cool concept.
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