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Recreate - Clinical Strength Fat Loss


The Ingredients:

WillPower (Pure Carraluma Fimbriata) - This rare herb has been used for centuries by Indian hunters to suppress appetite, yet increase focus and concentration while on a hunt. When it was survival of the fittest, these warriors chose pure carraluma fimbriata as their nutritional weapon of choice. Recreate is the only product on the market to include the pure form of this great compound. We have made a name for ourselves by developing the best herbal extracts in the business, but we still know when to use the pure version of a compound.

ThyroidFast (Engineered Extract of Olea europaea) - This extract, was shown to possess potent thyroid stimulatory properties when it increased T3 levels by 250%!.

CSM (Cortisol Specific Modulator) (Engineered Extract of Coffea Arabica L.)
- Has been shown to inhibit the enzyme 11-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1, both selectively and very potently in muscle and adipose cells.

Why is this good?

11beta-HSD1 is an enzyme responsible for increasing cortisol. We all know that excess cortisol crushes your progress in the gym faster than a speeding bullet and with the stress of living in our modern world, it's almost a given that your cortisol levels are through the roof - which all but stops your body from burning fat.

Balancing cortisol is a difficult task. If cortisol is too high you gain fat and feel like crap. If it's too low your joints hurt, your strength plummets and you feel like crap.

The key is to keep your cortisol balanced along with other hormones. This is very difficult to do normally and the task gets more difficult during periods of fat loss.

Unlike cracked-out stimulant-based "fat burners" (that place a tremendous amount of stress on your Central Nervous System-which allows cortisol to be increased greatly), Recreate works with your body to keep cortisol perfectly balanced and your fat burning sky high!

Forslean - A study which evaluated body composition found that when users took Forslean (without changing their normal nutrition/exercise habits), they were able to reduce body fat percentage by 4.14%. In addition, they were able to lose 9.9 pounds of fat mass and gained 8.2 pounds of lean body mass, over a 12 week period!

Furthermore, Forslean has also been shown to increase Testosterone production - This will ensure your "Test" levels are pumping while you're burning fat allowing for a general recomposition as you increase muscle.

Caffeine - While certainly not a novel compound, caffeine is a well known stimulant, thermogenic agent and stimulator of fat oxidation. No fat loss formula would be complete without it. In fact, caffeine has been shown to increase metabolic rate by 150 calories a day, which equates to 1.29 pounds over the course of 1 month. Not great, but not too shabby either. Taking these facts into consideration makes the following compound worth its weight in gold:

Cir20X - Potent Fat Loss Scientific Breakthrough

Cir20x (Engineered Extract of Microtea Debilis) - As if the compounds just described weren't enough, this baby is worth the price of admission and then some! This naturally occurring compound has demonstrated some impressive properties. Specifically, it has been shown to be 20 times more potent at stimulating lipolysis in fat cells than caffeine! Such potent effects are nothing short of amazing.

Cir20x is unquestionably the biggest breakthrough in fat burning technology in decades...

Read more at:


Bodybuilding Supplements by USPLabs
Kimbo
What's the caffeine content like?
Rodzilla
by not giving the ingredients I have to go and look up these extracts and try and figure out what the hell it is. It actually keeps me from taking it.
ersatz
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 10 2008, 07:37 PM) *
by not giving the ingredients I have to go and look up these extracts and try and figure out what the hell it is. It actually keeps me from taking it.

I too would prefer a standard supplement facts label. I've figured out most of the actives and the product looks promising. I await more feedback though before I personally use it.
Rodzilla
QUOTE (ersatz @ Apr 10 2008, 10:26 PM) *
I too would prefer a standard supplement facts label. I've figured out most of the actives and the product looks promising. I await more feedback though before I personally use it.

if you care to PM them to me, I would be very grateful smile.gif

Everyone should click on the link and watch the video..I'm totally sold.

also

20. Stimulates Thermogenesis Via an Increase In ATP
21. Stimulates Thermogenesis Via A Decrease In The Efficiency Of ATP (GPA maybe?) but anyway, wtf. Is this creatine + GPA because thats stupid.
AdelV
What video?
Kimbo
It's really not hard to figure out the actives. Most of them were listed in USP's write-up - there's a link to it in the other thread. But yeah, it does look interesting.
Rodzilla
I'm definitely interested, buy I don't even like prop blends, let alone mystery blends. I would definitely like to at least see the ingredients before trying it.

as for the video
http://www.usplabsdirect.com/catalog/Recreate-p-107.html
Kimbo
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 11 2008, 12:22 AM) *
I'm definitely interested, buy I don't even like prop blends, let alone mystery blends. I would definitely like to at least see the ingredients before trying it.

as for the video
http://www.usplabsdirect.com/catalog/Recreate-p-107.html

All of the ingredients are pretty much listed above - doesn't say how much of what, but that isn't uncommon in the supp business.
lbarber4
QUOTE (Kimbo @ Apr 10 2008, 05:56 PM) *
What's the caffeine content like?


75 mg caffeine per 1 cap

Forskolin amount: 25 mgs per 2 caps
Rodzilla
QUOTE (Kimbo @ Apr 10 2008, 11:40 PM) *
All of the ingredients are pretty much listed above - doesn't say how much of what, but that isn't uncommon in the supp business.


I mean the extract names, similar to all the other labels. They don't just say it, its always some super duper extract. I was looking for the extracts listed, most of them are easy enough to find except:

For Cir20x™ (Engineered Extract of Microtea Debilis) I may need to look into cirsimarin and cirsimaritin.

couldn't find much on ThyroidFast™ (Engineered Extract of Olea europaea) but I should try olive leaf extract later.

dexterium
QUOTE (Kimbo @ Apr 10 2008, 10:56 PM) *
What's the caffeine content like?


It's a proprietary blend but I believe it is 75 mg of caffeine.
dexterium
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 10 2008, 11:37 PM) *
by not giving the ingredients I have to go and look up these extracts and try and figure out what the hell it is. It actually keeps me from taking it.


I will get a picture of the supplement facts for you ASAP biggrin.gif
Rodzilla
QUOTE (dexterium @ Apr 11 2008, 10:01 AM) *
I will get a picture of the supplement facts for you ASAP biggrin.gif

seriously?
Gdawg
i think he just means what they post on the bottle, which you already know.
Kimbo
QUOTE (dexterium @ Apr 11 2008, 11:00 AM) *
It's a proprietary blend but I believe it is 75 mg of caffeine.

Nice, that's good to hear. I saw that it had caffeine in it and I was kind of disappointed, but 75mg isn't a big deal. Two doses would still be less than a cup of coffee.

Has anyone run double dosing or half dosing on this stuff?
Rodzilla
QUOTE (Kimbo @ Apr 11 2008, 10:35 AM) *
Nice, that's good to hear. I saw that it had caffeine in it and I was kind of disappointed, but 75mg isn't a big deal. Two doses would still be less than a cup of coffee.

Has anyone run double dosing or half dosing on this stuff?

it could still give quite the stim effect though, Amp is only 70mg per capsule.
Kimbo
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 11 2008, 11:38 AM) *
it could still give quite the stim effect though, Amp is only 70mg per capsule.

Yeah, but Amp also has chocamine and geranamine in it... I've tried straight geranamine, that stuff got me wired. Assuming Recreate doesn't have any other stims in it, 75mg should be ok. It'll still stim you up, just not as badly.
noswttea4u
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 11 2008, 11:05 AM) *
seriously?


Recreate Blend 750 mg **
Will Power (Pure Caralluma Fimbriata), SCModulator (Engineered Extract from Coffea ArabicaL), ThyroidFast (Engineered Extract from Olea Europaea), Caffeine, Forslean, Cir20x (2-(4-(beta-D-Gluco-pyranosyloxy) phenyl)-5-hydroxy-6, 7-dimethoxy-4H-1 -benzopyran-4-one Engineered Extract from Microtea Debilis)

That's from Nutra.. I assume the label will state the same thing. Cir20x is the only one that has any more info added to it.
Rodzilla
QUOTE (Kimbo @ Apr 11 2008, 10:41 AM) *
Yeah, but Amp also has chocamine and geranamine in it... I've tried straight geranamine, that stuff got me wired. Assuming Recreate doesn't have any other stims in it, 75mg should be ok. It'll still stim you up, just not as badly.

yeah thats what I was talking about, there could still be other stims, but looking below..I'm not sure.

QUOTE (noswttea4u @ Apr 11 2008, 11:06 AM) *
Recreate Blend 750 mg **
Will Power (Pure Caralluma Fimbriata), SCModulator (Engineered Extract from Coffea ArabicaL), ThyroidFast (Engineered Extract from Olea Europaea), Caffeine, Forslean, Cir20x (2-(4-(beta-D-Gluco-pyranosyloxy) phenyl)-5-hydroxy-6, 7-dimethoxy-4H-1 -benzopyran-4-one Engineered Extract from Microtea Debilis)

That's from Nutra.. I assume the label will state the same thing. Cir20x is the only one that has any more info added to it.

Thanks, I saw that somewhere. I still don't like the way they label things.
ersatz
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 11 2008, 04:59 AM) *
I mean the extract names, similar to all the other labels. They don't just say it, its always some super duper extract. I was looking for the extracts listed, most of them are easy enough to find except:

For Cir20x™ (Engineered Extract of Microtea Debilis) I may need to look into cirsimarin and cirsimaritin.

couldn't find much on ThyroidFast™ (Engineered Extract of Olea europaea) but I should try olive leaf extract later.



I could not figure out the specific extract regarding the Olea europaea. I believe it can be found in the following paper should you have access to it. Probably oleuropein or oleanolic acid though.

1: Phytother Res. 2002 May;16(3):286-7. Links
Effect of freeze dried extract of Olea europaea on the pituitary-thyroid axis in rats.Al-Qarawi AA, Al-Damegh MA, ElMougy SA.
Department of Veterinary Medicine, College of Agriculture and Veterinary Medicine, King Saud University, Saudi Arabia
noswttea4u
QUOTE (ersatz @ Apr 11 2008, 03:07 PM) *
I could not figure out the specific extract regarding the Olea europaea. I believe it can be found in the following paper should you have access to it. Probably oleuropein or oleanolic acid though.

1: Phytother Res. 2002 May;16(3):286-7. Links
Effect of freeze dried extract of Olea europaea on the pituitary-thyroid axis in rats.Al-Qarawi AA, Al-Damegh MA, ElMougy SA.
Department of Veterinary Medicine, College of Agriculture and Veterinary Medicine, King Saud University, Saudi Arabia


They used an aqueous extract of the leaves, no mention of the active.

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eclypz
QUOTE (noswttea4u @ Apr 11 2008, 11:44 AM) *
They used an aqueous extract of the leaves, no mention of the active.

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But you guys are missing the point. This stuff is clinical strength.
dexterium
QUOTE (Rodzilla @ Apr 11 2008, 12:05 PM) *
seriously?


Yes - I am getting our computer guy to get it for me. Should be very soon.
dexterium
QUOTE (Kimbo @ Apr 11 2008, 12:35 PM) *
Nice, that's good to hear. I saw that it had caffeine in it and I was kind of disappointed, but 75mg isn't a big deal. Two doses would still be less than a cup of coffee.

Has anyone run double dosing or half dosing on this stuff?


The other actives are what make Recreate an elite fat burner; caffeine is just part of the formula. The recommended dosage will be sufficient in producing results for sure.
dexterium
By the way, as for the subject of stimulants, Recreate is not going to provide a wired feeling. Initial feedback from Anabolic Minds has people talking about a significant increase in body temperature.
lethaljd
QUOTE (dexterium @ Apr 12 2008, 09:09 PM) *
By the way, as for the subject of stimulants, Recreate is not going to provide a wired feeling. Initial feedback from Anabolic Minds has people talking about a significant increase in body temperature.


I can second that. Stimulatory effects are slim to none, body temp. is another story. I get very hot after I take this stuff. Perceived temp increase lasts anywhere from 1-3 hours. I'll have more to report after I've been on it for longer. Only on day 3 right now.
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