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avantgarde
Ok so whenever I use stimulants, even mild ones like 200 mg caffeine, my feet sweat like crazy. When I abstain I have the same problem but it´s not as severe.

I did get Botox injected (yeah really) into each foot by a doctor like 6 weeks ago (correct amounts and experienced doc.) and while it did something I´m not "cured". This is not due to immunity as I had a few shots in my forehead and it completely erased the fine lines there (fine go ahead flame away).

I do use an aluminum antiperspirant which also helps a little but again not completely.

Any other tips / treatments ? This is causing avoidance behavior sometimes so I´d say, for me at least, it´s rather serious.

Armpits ar not a problem. Face sweat in the summertime, but my feet seems fucked up somehow.





markog
thick socks..


but seriously mabye more botox??

Could be a thyroid thing??

A freind of mine had really sweaty hands....ended up being hyperthyriodism
abraxas
You could try:

http://www.certaindrifeet.com/

The deodorant works well, though it burns a little.
lynx
Stop drinking alcohol.
krazyj
Ive really suffered with this alot. I have severe hyperhidrosis of the underarms, hands, and feet.

Your best (and really only) option for successful, long term treament is to get an iontophoresis machine from RA Fischer:
http://www.rafischer.com/prod05.htm

Its $700 but it really is the only cure for hyperhidrosis of the hands and feet. Certain dri/Drysol (drysol is prescription Certain Dri, works better, and is often cheaper than OTC Certain Dri after insurance.. keep in mind) are good but they are a cover up. Often times I can sweat beyond that.

DONT get botox in the feet and hands! That can cause nerve damage and loss of feeling. Plus its not perfect. Plus, doctors can miss spots. They missed a few spots on my armpits and boy did I raise hell after paying $1000 for botox and they missed little patches of it.

I gotta run now but PM me if you want more info.
avantgarde
Markog - I have complete bloodwork on a regular basis. I am not hyperthyroid (but I am just below the upper normal limit).

Lynx - Huh, yeah I am sure that would be good for a lot of reasons, but I only indulge once per week ?

krazi - funny you should mention that device. My botox doc (who also performs the procedure on children with CP) said that would be an option. So this has really worked out for you ?


krazyj
QUOTE (avantgarde @ Apr 13 2008, 02:46 AM) *
So this has really worked out for you ?


Today my hands were really dried out.

Most days they leave puddles on whatever surface I put my hands on longer than 3 seconds.

You gotta do it 3x/week for 3 or so weeks (and it takes about an hour total) but then its like once or twice a week every so often thereafter for maintenance. Best $700 Ive spent and its given me my life back.
lynx

http://www.mf.uni-lj.si/acta-apa/acta-apa-02-1/altman.html
QUOTE
Hyperhidrosis, an excessive rate of sweat secretion from the eccrine glands, is a disabling condition that affects both children and adults. With an incidence rate of 0.6 to 1% documented in the young Israeli population1 and onset usually during childhood or adolescence, palmoplantar hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating of the palms and soles) has been noted to occur twenty times more frequently in the Japanese than in any other ethnic group (2,3). Palmoplantar hyperhidrosis may frequently be observed in chronic alcohol abusers (4). Unlike sweating on the remainder of the body, palmoplantar hyperhidrosis is induced by emotions, not thermoregulation. Hyperhidrosis of the palms and soles is remarkable in that it does not occur during sleep or sedation because the hypothalamic sweat control center receives input from the cerebral cortex. This varies from the thermoregulatory hypothalamic center controlling sweating from the rest of the body. Individuals with hyperhidrosis have morphologically and functionally normal eccrine glands however, their glands are hypersensitive to stimuli in the hypothalamic sweat centers (5). Patients with palmoplantar hyperhidrosis have hypothalamic sweat centers that are hypersensitive to emotional stimuli of cerebral origin (6). The number of eccrine sweat glands per individual varies from two to four million with the greatest density on the palms and soles (5).

Diagnosis is evident by the history and visible signs of sweating. Many patients complain of social embarrassment and work-related disability due to palmoplantar hyperhidrosis. Unfortunately, this condition has not been easy to treat. Fortunately, many treatment options, including topical and systemic agents, iontophoresis, botulinum toxin injections, and sympathectomy, are now available.
krazyj
QUOTE (lynx @ Apr 13 2008, 11:57 AM) *



Yeah, its definitely emotionally based. After having hyperhidrosis for years, Ive managed to kind of pinpoint the 'subconscious layer' involved in the sweating and can sometimes control it. Theres a certain 'type' of worrying, if that makes sense, that can be controlled to stop sweating. Very hard to do though and doesnt work fully. Just something Ive been fucking with mentally in the past few months.

In all, it also seems like acetylcholine disregulation in the systems involved in sweating is responsible for this, too. (Hence the obvious treatment with Botox)
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