does anyone know what effect salvia has on neurotransmitters?
what causes the psychedelic effect? and how does it differ from other drugs (like lsd,mushrooms)
share experiences as well
Full Version: Salvia Divinorum
Salvornin A = potent kappa opiod receptor agonist.
Experiences?
I smoked it twice. The first time, I was in the middle of the quad at night at my college. I was smoking tobacco with my Middle Eastern friend out of a hookah then we switch to salvia. Holy balls. First I started to feel numb tingly. It reminded me a little of laughing gas at first. I started to feel light and weird. I looked down at my hands and, the best I can describe it, like metal vine/chains were coming out of them. Something you'd see coming out of an octopus-like superhero from Spiderman or something (seriously, best I can describe it). Anyways, that shit started happening and then I was like 'DUDE DONT LEAVE ME HERE IM TRIPPING BALLS.' (I didnt expect salvia to take me that hard). So I turned around and we were at the bottom of a hill and the hill started like swaying up and down. Kind of like the spins when your drunk but vertically.
I turned around back to the quad and walked a little deeper into it and stared at a tree. It was weird, it was like I made a connection with the tree and could feel its history and its feelings and its roots in the ground. The rest of the shit is kind of blurry.
The best part of the experience, though, is at the end. I had been struggling with some anxiety and life issues up to that point. I was feeling anxious, lonely, kind of depressed. I was way overworked and trying to maintain a facade of Mr. Popular and having lots of friends at the same time and, in my mind, tried my hardest to believe I was pulling all of that off. In reality, I was burning my candle at both ends. Anyways, once the trip was coming to a close, I started to realize that I was simply trying too much. Thats when it became evident to me. I was trying to be too many things to too many people. I realized that I needed to cut down on the meaningless relationships I have and spend more time nurturing the ones that mean alot to me.
It was like a feeling of understanding. Think of it like this. Its like looking back at a math problem you previously did and had no idea about.. but then, after you went and studied for the test, you went back and looked at that same math problem after the test and now you understood what it meant. You just understood it now. Before, when you looked at it, you had no clue what it meant. Now, you look back on it and, with your new knowledge on it, theres that feeling of understanding there.
Afterwards, I was real relaxed for the night.
The second time I smoked it was kind of shitty and not worth mentioning. Although I did feel really connected to the bass line in a song that I was listening to while smoking.
Very positive experience.
Experiences?
I smoked it twice. The first time, I was in the middle of the quad at night at my college. I was smoking tobacco with my Middle Eastern friend out of a hookah then we switch to salvia. Holy balls. First I started to feel numb tingly. It reminded me a little of laughing gas at first. I started to feel light and weird. I looked down at my hands and, the best I can describe it, like metal vine/chains were coming out of them. Something you'd see coming out of an octopus-like superhero from Spiderman or something (seriously, best I can describe it). Anyways, that shit started happening and then I was like 'DUDE DONT LEAVE ME HERE IM TRIPPING BALLS.' (I didnt expect salvia to take me that hard). So I turned around and we were at the bottom of a hill and the hill started like swaying up and down. Kind of like the spins when your drunk but vertically.
I turned around back to the quad and walked a little deeper into it and stared at a tree. It was weird, it was like I made a connection with the tree and could feel its history and its feelings and its roots in the ground. The rest of the shit is kind of blurry.
The best part of the experience, though, is at the end. I had been struggling with some anxiety and life issues up to that point. I was feeling anxious, lonely, kind of depressed. I was way overworked and trying to maintain a facade of Mr. Popular and having lots of friends at the same time and, in my mind, tried my hardest to believe I was pulling all of that off. In reality, I was burning my candle at both ends. Anyways, once the trip was coming to a close, I started to realize that I was simply trying too much. Thats when it became evident to me. I was trying to be too many things to too many people. I realized that I needed to cut down on the meaningless relationships I have and spend more time nurturing the ones that mean alot to me.
It was like a feeling of understanding. Think of it like this. Its like looking back at a math problem you previously did and had no idea about.. but then, after you went and studied for the test, you went back and looked at that same math problem after the test and now you understood what it meant. You just understood it now. Before, when you looked at it, you had no clue what it meant. Now, you look back on it and, with your new knowledge on it, theres that feeling of understanding there.
Afterwards, I was real relaxed for the night.
The second time I smoked it was kind of shitty and not worth mentioning. Although I did feel really connected to the bass line in a song that I was listening to while smoking.
Very positive experience.
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 13 2008, 02:00 PM) 
Salvornin A = potent kappa opiod receptor agonist.
thanks for the reply
what exactly does that target?
QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 13 2008, 02:12 PM)
what exactly does that target?
Your kappa opiod receptors.
I dont really know what those receptors do and I dont think most anyone else has a clue, either. Originally, it was thought kappa opiod receptors caused dysphoria but salvias proved that wrong.In all, salvia is still kind of a mystery still but thats the best we got. Most potent natural hallucinogen by weight and incredibly non-toxic.
Btw, keep an eye on your states legal status and stock up on that shit if it looks like its going south. My state just (past 2-3 weeks) illegalized it.
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 13 2008, 02:18 PM)
Your kappa opiod receptors. I dont really know what those receptors do and I dont think most anyone else has a clue, either. Originally, it was thought kappa opiod receptors caused dysphoria but salvias proved that wrong.
In all, salvia is still kind of a mystery still but thats the best we got. Most potent natural hallucinogen by weight and incredibly non-toxic.
Btw, keep an eye on your states legal status and stock up on that shit if it looks like its going south. My state just (past 2-3 weeks) illegalized it.
I dont really know what those receptors do and I dont think most anyone else has a clue, either. Originally, it was thought kappa opiod receptors caused dysphoria but salvias proved that wrong.In all, salvia is still kind of a mystery still but thats the best we got. Most potent natural hallucinogen by weight and incredibly non-toxic.
Btw, keep an eye on your states legal status and stock up on that shit if it looks like its going south. My state just (past 2-3 weeks) illegalized it.
yeah i think like 5 states so far dont allow it
i read somewhere that it has something to do with serotonin
also since its also used for meditation i would guess acetylcholine???
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 13 2008, 02:00 PM)
Salvornin A = potent kappa opiod receptor agonist.
Experiences?
I smoked it twice. The first time, I was in the middle of the quad at night at my college. I was smoking tobacco with my Middle Eastern friend out of a hookah then we switch to salvia. Holy balls. First I started to feel numb tingly. It reminded me a little of laughing gas at first. I started to feel light and weird. I looked down at my hands and, the best I can describe it, like metal vine/chains were coming out of them. Something you'd see coming out of an octopus-like superhero from Spiderman or something (seriously, best I can describe it). Anyways, that shit started happening and then I was like 'DUDE DONT LEAVE ME HERE IM TRIPPING BALLS.' (I didnt expect salvia to take me that hard). So I turned around and we were at the bottom of a hill and the hill started like swaying up and down. Kind of like the spins when your drunk but vertically.
I turned around back to the quad and walked a little deeper into it and stared at a tree. It was weird, it was like I made a connection with the tree and could feel its history and its feelings and its roots in the ground. The rest of the shit is kind of blurry.
The best part of the experience, though, is at the end. I had been struggling with some anxiety and life issues up to that point. I was feeling anxious, lonely, kind of depressed. I was way overworked and trying to maintain a facade of Mr. Popular and having lots of friends at the same time and, in my mind, tried my hardest to believe I was pulling all of that off. In reality, I was burning my candle at both ends. Anyways, once the trip was coming to a close, I started to realize that I was simply trying too much. Thats when it became evident to me. I was trying to be too many things to too many people. I realized that I needed to cut down on the meaningless relationships I have and spend more time nurturing the ones that mean alot to me.
It was like a feeling of understanding. Think of it like this. Its like looking back at a math problem you previously did and had no idea about.. but then, after you went and studied for the test, you went back and looked at that same math problem after the test and now you understood what it meant. You just understood it now. Before, when you looked at it, you had no clue what it meant. Now, you look back on it and, with your new knowledge on it, theres that feeling of understanding there.
Afterwards, I was real relaxed for the night.
The second time I smoked it was kind of shitty and not worth mentioning. Although I did feel really connected to the bass line in a song that I was listening to while smoking.
Very positive experience.
Experiences?
I smoked it twice. The first time, I was in the middle of the quad at night at my college. I was smoking tobacco with my Middle Eastern friend out of a hookah then we switch to salvia. Holy balls. First I started to feel numb tingly. It reminded me a little of laughing gas at first. I started to feel light and weird. I looked down at my hands and, the best I can describe it, like metal vine/chains were coming out of them. Something you'd see coming out of an octopus-like superhero from Spiderman or something (seriously, best I can describe it). Anyways, that shit started happening and then I was like 'DUDE DONT LEAVE ME HERE IM TRIPPING BALLS.' (I didnt expect salvia to take me that hard). So I turned around and we were at the bottom of a hill and the hill started like swaying up and down. Kind of like the spins when your drunk but vertically.
I turned around back to the quad and walked a little deeper into it and stared at a tree. It was weird, it was like I made a connection with the tree and could feel its history and its feelings and its roots in the ground. The rest of the shit is kind of blurry.
The best part of the experience, though, is at the end. I had been struggling with some anxiety and life issues up to that point. I was feeling anxious, lonely, kind of depressed. I was way overworked and trying to maintain a facade of Mr. Popular and having lots of friends at the same time and, in my mind, tried my hardest to believe I was pulling all of that off. In reality, I was burning my candle at both ends. Anyways, once the trip was coming to a close, I started to realize that I was simply trying too much. Thats when it became evident to me. I was trying to be too many things to too many people. I realized that I needed to cut down on the meaningless relationships I have and spend more time nurturing the ones that mean alot to me.
It was like a feeling of understanding. Think of it like this. Its like looking back at a math problem you previously did and had no idea about.. but then, after you went and studied for the test, you went back and looked at that same math problem after the test and now you understood what it meant. You just understood it now. Before, when you looked at it, you had no clue what it meant. Now, you look back on it and, with your new knowledge on it, theres that feeling of understanding there.
Afterwards, I was real relaxed for the night.
The second time I smoked it was kind of shitty and not worth mentioning. Although I did feel really connected to the bass line in a song that I was listening to while smoking.
Very positive experience.
im def going to get some. can u suggest what type? i was looking at something on ebay it has 20 leafs to equal a gram. for $25 and it has good reviews
QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 13 2008, 02:26 PM)
im def going to get some. can u suggest what type? i was looking at something on ebay it has 20 leafs to equal a gram. for $25 and it has good reviews
Dont go TOO strong on your first try because it can be very dysphoric if you and salvia just dont mix. Its cheap and, if you want to go stronger, you can just buy some more. Make sure you buy from a quality source on ebay, dont go with cheapie sources. Read through this:
http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html
It explains most of what you need to know for the first time.
It is definitely a POWERFUL experience. Its not one thats necessarily 'fun' or 'high' inducing but itll take you away, for sure. Let us know how it goes. And have a sitter.
krazyj, I agree with your assessment. I've found that even a small dose gives many of the benefits you mention. You don't need a heavy dose at all, just baseline.
3rd time doing salvia nothing except small buzz...what gives
QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 21 2008, 07:39 PM)
3rd time doing salvia nothing except small buzz...what gives
Yikes. You may be a non-responder. Try being sure that the flame is DIRECTLY on it. Some people go so far as using kitchen torches but thats dangerous because you might trip balls and knock it over.
Read the FAQ link I posted earlier in the thread. Non-responders can make a liquid they hold in their mouth to make it work.
yeah i even tried chewing a shit load of it and not much happened just an afterglow like effect.
im going to try and dose it higher or do the liquid method, or make a tea
im going to try and dose it higher or do the liquid method, or make a tea
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