read some articles talking about how ginkgo can cause strokes...
some experiment said that many of the subjects had strokes, while placebo subjects didnt
it really seems to be helping w/ problems coming off stimulants/amphetamines but i dont wanna cause other problems
should i stop?
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QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 14 2008, 12:59 PM) 
read some articles talking about how ginkgo can cause strokes...
some experiment said that many of the subjects had strokes, while placebo subjects didnt
it really seems to be helping w/ problems coming off stimulants/amphetamines but i dont wanna cause other problems
should i stop?
some experiment said that many of the subjects had strokes, while placebo subjects didnt
it really seems to be helping w/ problems coming off stimulants/amphetamines but i dont wanna cause other problems
should i stop?
Bumb, Ive got some Ginko on the way from BN and I dont want to have a stroke using it.
I guess it can if is being used with blood thinners or vasodilators... or taken in huge doses...
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
what is a high dose? 120mg?
QUOTE (Darksanity @ Apr 15 2008, 08:40 AM)
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
rofl. Good times.
What specific kind of Ginko? I would swear that I can feel the nootropic effects of the Ginko Biloba 60mg in my multi.
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 15 2008, 08:55 AM)
rofl. Good times.
What specific kind of Ginko? I would swear that I can feel the nootropic effects of the Ginko Biloba 60mg in my multi.
What specific kind of Ginko? I would swear that I can feel the nootropic effects of the Ginko Biloba 60mg in my multi.
yeah i can def feel effects from ginkgo starting from the 1st day i took it
im using nitric oxide when working out anyone know if should i drop while using ginkgo to prevent stroke risk?
QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 15 2008, 12:12 PM)
im using nitric oxide when working out anyone know if should i drop while using ginkgo to prevent stroke risk?
Nitric Oxide is SOO overplayed in the supp industry.
The thought of NO boosting is in itself almost impossible to quantify - TRUE vasodilation leads to a drop in blood pressure, not as the supplement industry suggests as improving vascularity - all of these supps have caffeine or analogs at the basis which in fact actually vasoconstrict and lead to increases in blood pressure and heart rate.
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 15 2008, 01:16 PM)
Nitric Oxide is SOO overplayed in the supp industry.
The thought of NO boosting is in itself almost impossible to quantify - TRUE vasodilation leads to a drop in blood pressure, not as the supplement industry suggests as improving vascularity - all of these supps have caffeine or analogs at the basis which in fact actually vasoconstrict and lead to increases in blood pressure and heart rate.
The thought of NO boosting is in itself almost impossible to quantify - TRUE vasodilation leads to a drop in blood pressure, not as the supplement industry suggests as improving vascularity - all of these supps have caffeine or analogs at the basis which in fact actually vasoconstrict and lead to increases in blood pressure and heart rate.
yeah i fell into the hype and i find other supps to give a much better pump i still have some so i thought id finish it off
its bulk arginine ethyl ester powder- although its not bad and i find it doesnt really increase my vascularity as well as other products (which is what im going after)
it does make veins bigger thats bout it, when i dose it very high it does give a good long lasting pump though but as far as vascularity goes it isnt that good
QUOTE (BlackFlag @ Apr 15 2008, 08:36 AM)
Bumb, Ive got some Ginko on the way from BN and I dont want to have a stroke using it.
what are you using ginkgo for?
QUOTE (Darksanity @ Apr 15 2008, 04:40 AM)
I guess it can if is being used with blood thinners or vasodilators... or taken in huge doses...
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
it it get you mroe fucked up for the amount of alcohol or just sleepy?
QUOTE (Darksanity @ Apr 15 2008, 01:40 PM)
I guess it can if is being used with blood thinners or vasodilators... or taken in huge doses...
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
DO NOT TAKE GINKGO WITH ALCOHOL (tried it once, complete blackout at ½ the party... friends told me I was DEAD and vomiting non-stop...)
I have never experienced this, even with heavy drinking. The dangers on ginkgo are seriously overblown imo, it's just not potent enough to do serious bloodthinning. Begin worrying if you want to combine it with stuff like Coumadin or Warfarin.
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