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gotDOMS
share experiences/opinions with wormwood
it can be any form in alcohol or smoked
theanine200
Didn't do anything when I smoked it. Honestly, I couldn't feel anything.
krazyj
QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 14 2008, 06:15 PM) *
share experiences/opinions with wormwood
it can be any form in alcohol or smoked


Damn, you're dying to hallucinate.

Any specific goals you want to achieve through hallucination?
gotDOMS
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 14 2008, 06:31 PM) *
Damn, you're dying to hallucinate.

Any specific goals you want to achieve through hallucination?


haha
well ive done shrooms a couple of times and that was intense but im looking at different type of hallucinogens
im prolly gonna do lsd with some friends but not sure when
salvia seemed to not do much the first time i tried it but i was told that it may not work the first time and that you also need to smoke a lot more
ive heard about wormwood, also read some experiences on erowid it sounds unique
ive never had fun with mj

another reason is that i was using a lot of stims like amps, mph, very high doses of caffeien for a year and i havent felt the same ever since
i did not get any of the high dopamine side effects like anxiety/panic attacks but the problems were all associated with acetylcholine loss or receptor damage (pretty bad i seriously think i have minor dementia/alzheimers now or something) and i kinda lost my identity, got isolated and still dont feel like myself. Lost friends, fked up school, relationships...
its gotten a lot better but im still not 100percent. I cant speak, act, write like i used to everythings different.
i had even started using ciggs to fight the short term memory loss it helps but its only temporary im down to like 1 a day now. im looking into meditative hallucinogens just to reflect because it seems to help me remember thigns and i feel more like myself
D-termine
Salvia needs to be torched throughout your drag, and is best hit from a bong. I think its illegal now, but if bud isn't your cup of tea, Salvia will straight up make you shit your pants
gotDOMS
QUOTE (D-termine @ Apr 14 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Salvia needs to be torched throughout your drag, and is best hit from a bong. I think its illegal now, but if bud isn't your cup of tea, Salvia will straight up make you shit your pants


first time didnt do much but i can imagine what it would feel like from the subtle effects that i got
friends didnt feel much either
gonna use better extract and higher dose this time
D-termine
Be ready to fall down. I'd suggest a place with minimal distractions, and NO strangers. I'd like to give it another whirl, but damn did I not know what I was getting into the first time I tried it.
krazyj
Dark room. Minimal, minimal noise. Even white noise might be too distracting. Relax. Salvia also needs direct flame as it requires an extremely high temperature to release the Salvornin A. Itll come at you fast so dont use a torch or you might drop it. Put the yellow part of the flame right on the salvia and use a water pipe because the smoke is extremely harsh.

I was where you were a year ago and hoped hallucinogens might provide me some clarity. They did but I would have eventually come to the same conclusions after about 3-4 months or so. Get the rest of your life in order. Diet, relationships, everything. Find a way to be happy where you are at. And get your hormones and shit checked to make sure you dont have other disorders causing this. Ive been low T for a few years and didnt know it. Thats been a source of big problems for me. Im hoping TRT will fix that in the next month or so.

Get 8 hrs of sleep every night. Relax and enjoy the moment for an hour everyday. You reek of adrenal fatigue.

/thread hijack
Reven
Brewing wormwood into your alcohol is what I'm familiar with hence Absinthe. I have a recipe from a comprehensive search into the matter if you care. I figure wormwood maybe interesting. Only thing stopping me from brewing it is I haven't found the correct type of wormwood to use. FYI my cat loves my wormwood cross more than the catnip.

As for salvia, haven't done it but my friends give it mixed reviews. One hated it and highly recommended not doing it, the other said it was interesting. If I recall correctly it is short lived.

If hallucinogens your after, look into cacti, for a couple dollars your local garden centre will have you trippin balls. Make sure you got plenty of time on your hands.
D-termine
OMG GET SOME AVATARS PEOPLE

Ps, I say that with love as you all seem to have something valuable to contribute here. Establish a "face" for yourself
gotDOMS
QUOTE (krazyj @ Apr 14 2008, 08:26 PM) *
Dark room. Minimal, minimal noise. Even white noise might be too distracting. Relax. Salvia also needs direct flame as it requires an extremely high temperature to release the Salvornin A. Itll come at you fast so dont use a torch or you might drop it. Put the yellow part of the flame right on the salvia and use a water pipe because the smoke is extremely harsh.

I was where you were a year ago and hoped hallucinogens might provide me some clarity. They did but I would have eventually come to the same conclusions after about 3-4 months or so. Get the rest of your life in order. Diet, relationships, everything. Find a way to be happy where you are at. And get your hormones and shit checked to make sure you dont have other disorders causing this. Ive been low T for a few years and didnt know it. Thats been a source of big problems for me. Im hoping TRT will fix that in the next month or so.

Get 8 hrs of sleep every night. Relax and enjoy the moment for an hour everyday. You reek of adrenal fatigue.

/thread hijack


yeah thanks for the advice
i was def 100x worse a few months ago...it was pretty bad
as far as rest goes i dont have a problem getting 8-10 hours of sleep with college (classes are late) there really isnt much other stress in my life right now
for hormones i have been into bodybuidling for the past couple years (which is where i started using stims in those preworkout drinks) i workout 4 times a week and have a good diet BUT i do get a much different feeling from testosterone boosters like nettle root divanil (activate) but ive never used ph or any designer roids, which has always had me thinking my test is low.
Can you tell me more about TRT and how you got started on the testing, did u see a special doc?
appreciate it man
djremix
have you tried regular dosing nootropics+choline for a couple of months, they should help a lot with these symtoms.

as for psychedelics, they most definatly help, but the effect doesnt really last by its self. it needs nurturing, meditation, deep thoughts etc

wormwood i never tried except for 75% and 85% proof real spanish absinthe. it does add a mild effect over the alcy buzz so i assume the real deal would be something like gabatropin
krazyj
QUOTE (gotDOMS @ Apr 15 2008, 07:08 AM) *
yeah thanks for the advice
i was def 100x worse a few months ago...it was pretty bad
as far as rest goes i dont have a problem getting 8-10 hours of sleep with college (classes are late) there really isnt much other stress in my life right now
for hormones i have been into bodybuidling for the past couple years (which is where i started using stims in those preworkout drinks) i workout 4 times a week and have a good diet BUT i do get a much different feeling from testosterone boosters like nettle root divanil (activate) but ive never used ph or any designer roids, which has always had me thinking my test is low.
Can you tell me more about TRT and how you got started on the testing, did u see a special doc?
appreciate it man


Id be glad to. And anyone else who needs help. PMing you with info now...
Gdawg
QUOTE (Reven @ Apr 14 2008, 09:01 PM) *
Brewing wormwood into your alcohol is what I'm familiar with hence Absinthe. I have a recipe from a comprehensive search into the matter if you care. I figure wormwood maybe interesting. Only thing stopping me from brewing it is I haven't found the correct type of wormwood to use. FYI my cat loves my wormwood cross more than the catnip.

As for salvia, haven't done it but my friends give it mixed reviews. One hated it and highly recommended not doing it, the other said it was interesting. If I recall correctly it is short lived.

If hallucinogens your after, look into cacti, for a couple dollars your local garden centre will have you trippin balls. Make sure you got plenty of time on your hands.

Mind posting the recipe you've got? (or pming it if you'd rather) I've looked up some, by googling, but would like to see all the different ways before choosing an option.
Reven
QUOTE (Gdawg @ Apr 15 2008, 09:34 AM) *
Mind posting the recipe you've got? (or pming it if you'd rather) I've looked up some, by googling, but would like to see all the different ways before choosing an option.


No problem, the data I have isn't too great I looked into this last year and it appears my recipe never got completed as I got distracted.

I have:

"Absinthe
The main herbs used are grande wormwood, florence fennel and green anise, often called the 'holy trinity'. Many other herbs may be used as well, such as hyssop, melissa, star anise and petite wormwood (Artemisia pontica or Roman wormwood). Various recipes also include angelica root, Sweet Flag, dittany leaves, coriander, veronica, juniper, nutmeg, and various mountain herbs." (wikipedia.. I believe)

and my compiled list of ingredients (as you can see the two lists differ):

151 rum
Angelica Root
calamus root
caraway seeds
cardomon pods
coriander seeds
fennel or anise seeds
Hyssop leaves
Lion's Tail flowers
sage leaf
salvia chiapas leaves
Spearmint
Uva-ursi leaves
white sage
Wormwood

I could be wrong, but 151 may have only been selected due to lack of 190, or to lessen the amount of alcohol for stronger effects. I'm pretty sure after searching long enough the above list was very similar to one recipe found on the net, which I think had amounts. I'll take a look this weekend for the link. If you search or find a list with the exact ingredients then there is a good probability I decided I liked that one and copied the info. Here is some related info, sorry no citation, search the web if you want.

ASARONE -- 1,2,4-trimethoxy-5-propenylbenzene or 2,4,5-trimethoxy-1-
benzene.
Material: A chemical related to mescaline and the amphetamines
found in the roots of sweet flag (_Acorus calamus_) and _Asarum_ spp.
It is chemically the precusor of TMA-2 (2,4,5-trimethoxy-a-methyl-4,5-
methylenedioxyphenylethylamine), a hallucinogen with 18 times the gram
potency of mescaline. Asarone is converted to TMA-2 in the body by
aminization which takes place shortly after ingestion.
Usage: 45-350 mg orally on empty stomach. Individual sensitivity
varies widely.
Effects: Simultaneous stimulant, hallucinogen, and sedative. One
or another of these traits may be more pronounced depending upon the
dose and the individual. CNS stimulant, antispasmatic.
Contraindications: Should not be taken with MAO inhibitors.

CALAMUS -- Sweet flag, rat root (_Acorus calamus_). Family Araceae
(Arum family).
Material: Roots of tall, fragrant, sword-leaved plant found in
marshes and borders of ponds and streams in Europe, Asia, and North
America from Nova Scotia to Minnesota, southward to Florida and Texas.
Usage: Roots are collected in late autumn or spring, washed,
voided of root fibres and dried with moderate heat. Root may be
chewed or broken up and boiled as a tea. Doses range from 2 to 10
inches of root. Root deteriorates with age. Usually inactive after 1
year. Store closed in cool dry place.
Active Constituents: Asarone and beta-asarone.
Effects: A piece of dried root the thickness of a pencil and
about 2 inches long provides stimulating and buoyant feelings. A
piece 10 inches long acts as a mind alterant and hallucinogen. (See
ASARONE.) Calamus was often used in absinthe.

WORMWOOD -- _Artemisia absinthium._ Family Compositae (Sunflower
family).
Material: Leaves and stems of common herb.
Usage: Bitter essential oil is extracted into alcohol. Sometimes
combined with Pernod or anisette to make absinthe.
Active Constituents: Absinthine (a dimeric guaianolide),
anabsinthin, and a volatile oil mainly consisting of thujone.
Effects: Narcotic.
Contraindications: Excessive long-term use of liqueur may be
habit-forming and debilitating. Ingestion of volatile oil or liqueur
may cause GI disturbances, nervousness, stupor, and convulsions due to
thujone.
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