http://www.dreamviews.com/
So I was wondering if anyone was familiar with this website. They have tutorials on how lucid dream (which takes time and patience, they claim).
Your wasting a large portion of your life by not lucid dreaming!
Sounds awesome.
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You sound skeptical, so read the more scientifically-oriented literature on it:
Stephen LaBerge's book, "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming," documents some of the experiments he did as a Stanford researcher to validate the phenomenon.
DreamViews is nice because it's cutting-edge in terms of individuals discussing and revising the latest psychopharmaceutical and cognitive/behavioral techniques to Lucid Dream.
Here's a published case study, done by someone other than LaBerge, who has less of a conflict-of-interest:
Stephen LaBerge's book, "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming," documents some of the experiments he did as a Stanford researcher to validate the phenomenon.
DreamViews is nice because it's cutting-edge in terms of individuals discussing and revising the latest psychopharmaceutical and cognitive/behavioral techniques to Lucid Dream.
Here's a published case study, done by someone other than LaBerge, who has less of a conflict-of-interest:
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Sleep. 1989 Aug;12(4):374-8.Links
H-reflex suppression and autonomic activation during lucid REM sleep: a case study.
Brylowski A, Levitan L, LaBerge S.
University of Texas Medical School, Houston 75235-9070.
A single subject, a proficient lucid dreamer experienced with signaling the onset of lucidity (reflective consciousness of dreaming) by means of voluntary eye movements, spent 4 nonconsecutive nights in the sleep laboratory. The subject reported becoming lucid and signaling in 8 of the 18 rapid-eye movement (REM) periods recorded. Ten lucid dream reports were verified by polygraphic examination of signals, providing a total of 12.5 min of signal-verified lucid REM. H-Reflex amplitude was recorded every 5 s, along with continuous recording of electroencephalogram, electrooculogram, electromyogram, electrocardiogram, finger pulse, and respiration. Significant findings included greater mean H-reflex suppression during lucid REM sleep than during nonlucid REM and correlations of H-reflex suppression with increased eye movement density, heart rate, and respiration rate. These results support previous studies reporting that lucid REM is not, as might be supposed, a state closer to awakening than ordinary, or nonlucid, REM; rather, lucid dreaming occurs during unequivocal REM sleep and is characteristically associated with phasic REM activation.
H-reflex suppression and autonomic activation during lucid REM sleep: a case study.
Brylowski A, Levitan L, LaBerge S.
University of Texas Medical School, Houston 75235-9070.
A single subject, a proficient lucid dreamer experienced with signaling the onset of lucidity (reflective consciousness of dreaming) by means of voluntary eye movements, spent 4 nonconsecutive nights in the sleep laboratory. The subject reported becoming lucid and signaling in 8 of the 18 rapid-eye movement (REM) periods recorded. Ten lucid dream reports were verified by polygraphic examination of signals, providing a total of 12.5 min of signal-verified lucid REM. H-Reflex amplitude was recorded every 5 s, along with continuous recording of electroencephalogram, electrooculogram, electromyogram, electrocardiogram, finger pulse, and respiration. Significant findings included greater mean H-reflex suppression during lucid REM sleep than during nonlucid REM and correlations of H-reflex suppression with increased eye movement density, heart rate, and respiration rate. These results support previous studies reporting that lucid REM is not, as might be supposed, a state closer to awakening than ordinary, or nonlucid, REM; rather, lucid dreaming occurs during unequivocal REM sleep and is characteristically associated with phasic REM activation.
I'm definitely not skeptical. I have without a doubt lucid dreamed on a few rare occasions.
Maybe I worded that first post oddly.
Maybe I worded that first post oddly.
there were some supps that supposedly helped in dream recollection right?
these would be awesome to combine, though i remember general theme to my lucid dreams, details and feeling have long been forgotten
though i do know they were awesome in some sense :-) as when you control your dream and start flying and what not, its better than any trip you ever will try :-)
these would be awesome to combine, though i remember general theme to my lucid dreams, details and feeling have long been forgotten
though i do know they were awesome in some sense :-) as when you control your dream and start flying and what not, its better than any trip you ever will try :-)
Some of their tips seemed to help me LD a while back. Pretty good site in my opinion. Things that helped best for me were the journaling immediately after having a dream and going over it the next day, and also getting in the habit of looking at clocks twice to help indicate a dream (there is no consistent clock time in dreams).
QUOTE (Gdawg @ Apr 16 2008, 08:05 AM) 
Some of their tips seemed to help me LD a while back. Pretty good site in my opinion. Things that helped best for me were the journaling immediately after having a dream and going over it the next day, and also getting in the habit of looking at clocks twice to help indicate a dream (there is no consistent clock time in dreams).
I've had a few lucid dreams that I can remember and on all occasions enjoyed them immensely. Having read "The Art of Dreaming" it seems one of the first problems to overcome is permanence of objects within dreams. Hard to look at a clock twice if it isn't there anymore or you've shifted scenes. What I do think the whole "clock watching" during your waking day will do is make you aware that you "desire" a lucid dream so that when you do enter a dream that memory of desire is still there which will hopefully lead to the realisation that you are in a dreamscape.
I have incredible dreams but also some terrible ones. I have also been afflicted with the "night hag" on one occasion which I believe was the scariest moment of my life to date. One thing I used to do to get out of my dreams was actually ask my assailant (there was usually always one!) to just kill me as I knew that was an exit. Puts paid to that whole "if you die in your dream you die in real life man!" type of crap.
Thanks for putting that link up by the way theanine - will be interesting reading during my lunchtime break.
I was talking about this with a buddy last night, this site will help a good deal. After Waking Life it has definitely been on my to-do list
QUOTE (djremix @ Apr 16 2008, 10:43 AM)
there were some supps that supposedly helped in dream recollection right?
Pretty sure galantamine is the most recommended.
Magnesium helps. ZMA does also (which has Magnesium in it).
I have lucid dreamed on several occasions. Its weird though, your in your dream and you know that you can do whatever you want, however, it really doesn't work like that. If for example you wanted something to appear out of nowhere, you can't actually "will" it to happen or materialize in front of you by thought alone. Its as though you hold a bit of reality within your dream. Most of my lucid dreams just involved me being spider man and having complete control of webslinging (which is absolutely great). I have gotten very good and confident at swinging around buildings, but have not gotten around actually walking or sticking upside down (almost as if i cannot imagine myself to do so.)
Then there was this one time I knew I could do anything, so I was in a bar of some sort and grabbed someones cell phone and chucked it against the wall. Everyone started ganging up on me and i just stood there with a smile on my face. One thing leads to another and everyone is on top of me (while i'm actually FEELING the hits). Then I stand up and just blasted the whole bar. That was one of my favorite ones.
p.s. Many of these lucid dreams happened when I did not sleep the night before and took something to induce sleep that night.
Then there was this one time I knew I could do anything, so I was in a bar of some sort and grabbed someones cell phone and chucked it against the wall. Everyone started ganging up on me and i just stood there with a smile on my face. One thing leads to another and everyone is on top of me (while i'm actually FEELING the hits). Then I stand up and just blasted the whole bar. That was one of my favorite ones.
p.s. Many of these lucid dreams happened when I did not sleep the night before and took something to induce sleep that night.
does a lucid dream feel like when you are awake, like would it be the same like doing what you want when your awake, or does it still feel like a dream?
I never feel awake in a lucid dream. You just think something isn't quite right and try to put a finger on it until all pieces fall together, then snap, you know you can control the (your) world. However, in the background it kind of feels like your drugged to the max but are constantly walking on a thread between waking up and dreaming.
QUOTE (MeDieViL @ Apr 21 2008, 04:05 PM)
does a lucid dream feel like when you are awake, like would it be the same like doing what you want when your awake, or does it still feel like a dream?
That would be an extremely vivid dream. I've had those on high dose theanine/PEA and they are as real as they come. Being aware in that type of dream would be absolutely wonderful, however, its so real you really don't think your dreaming and there would be no queue to indicate it.
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