Ok so I switched to penetrate for my td cycle of 1t and 4ad. I was using an old bottle of avant formula.

I look on the nutra site and 1 pump is .5 mL. So I apply the right amount to match what I was using with the avant stuff.


At some point I realize I am soaked in this stuff like I'm a moltov cocktail and then check the pump. One pump from this is 2mL!!!!


So i took like three days worth of this stuff in one sitting. Should be an interesting day.

You won't notice anything in one day of it...do it for a week then report back

I notice my TD mix right away. Shit now I'm racking my brain, cus I could almost swear my Penetrate is .5ml/pump.

This is stuff my bud bought me a while back so they may have changed their pumps since then. But damn yeah 1 pump = 2mL for this one and I was drenched.