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BlackFlag
I want to buy some herbal stuff such as Kratom/Kava Kava, but I have no idea what is the best form. I was looking at tinctures, which seem the most cost effective and potent form of the herbs. I also see resin and I have no idea how to use that. Any help would be appreciated.
dragula
Stay away from tinctures. They suck. Ive tried every kind of Kratom available, and the best is still the regular bali, from mitragynine Speciosa. hint hint use google.
zuper1
QUOTE (BlackFlag @ Apr 21 2008, 06:30 PM) *
Kratom/Kava Kava

Powder/Powder(root).
Not extract.
avantgarde
How does Kratom compare to Tramadol ?

I get 2 hours of going up followed by nodding on Tram. IŽd much prefer a speedier opiod.



dragula
Kratom is very speedy, especially the thai strains. Kinda like low-dose trammy.
Viator
I concur, kratom leaf is the most versatile. the resin extracts are stronger and more convenient, but overpriced. search the articles on this site for: Kratom: Nature's Gift... by this one really talented writer. I forget his name though.

Kratom is very much like tramadol both in its CNS effects and it's partial opiate agonist/antagonist actions. My new favorite way to take kratom is to wad up whole leaves in my cheek like RedMan chew. only w/o the spitting. it takes forever to kick in but it lasts all day like this. -V
BlackFlag
OK, so the powder or leaves are the best and not the extract. Yeah, the extract can get pretty expensive!
BlackFlag
Also, this is kind of a dumb question, but I have to ask. Will Kratom cause a false positive on a drug test?
Supnut
It would likely be more accurate to say it will cause a legitimate positive

BlackFlag
QUOTE (Supnut @ Apr 21 2008, 09:14 PM) *
It would likely be more accurate to say it will cause a legitimate positive


A positive for what?
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